Musical taste is an absolute!

[Iam]

If you're suggesting that because you enjoy something once, you have to enjoy it forevermore, that's bollocks, too.

 

[Cheesypoof]

If you're suggesting that because you enjoy something once, you have to enjoy it forevermore, that's bollocks, too.

yeh but to go from loving it and it changing your life a bit when you are 14, and then turning around at 26 and 'realising its shit' just sounds like you were following whats popular as a kid (or an adult) if you ask me.

it kind of makes me sad too, that something that could affect your life at 13 would be just considered 'shit' when you got older. I just dont get firkys reasoning because the things i loved as a teenager i still happen to love 15 years later, whether it be music, films or whatever.

 

[Iam]

What, all of it? Every single last note or moment of screen time??

I feel the same about some of the stuff I loved back then now as I did back then...

But not all of it.

I get over stuff really quickly sometimes.

 

[story]

yeh but to go from loving it and it changing your life a bit when you are 14, and then turning around at 26 and 'realising its shit' just sounds like you were following whats popular as a kid (or an adult) if you ask me.

it kind of makes me sad too, that something that could affect your life at 13 would be just considered 'shit' when you got older. I just dont get firkys reasoning because the things i loved as a teenager i still happen to love 15 years later, whether it be music, films or whatever.

Oh I disagree with this. There's stuff I liked in my teens that meant a great deal to me, which now sounds pretty one-dimensional and un-interesting. I still like it, in the sense that I still think it has some merit, and I love remembering all the reasons why it was important to me then; but I can't listen to it now - it bores me rather. The Meteors, for instance.

Similarly, there was stuff I listened to then that made no sense to me at all, stuff I didn't like and didn't get. Now, I listen to it, get it, enjoy it. Miles Davis is a case in point.

There are bands that I hear now and I think "Oh, I'd have really loved this band when I was younger", but they just don't cut it for me as an adult.

And truly, my taste has developed and matured in terms of any other thing I enjoy: friendships, architecture, food, art, film, the lot.

 

[Firky]

yeh but to go from loving it and it changing your life a bit when you are 14, and then turning around at 26 and 'realising its shit' just sounds like you were following whats popular as a kid (or an adult) if you ask me.

it kind of makes me sad too, that something that could affect your life at 13 would be just considered 'shit' when you got older. I just dont get firkys reasoning because the things i loved as a teenager i still happen to love 15 years later, whether it be music, films or whatever.

yeah but no but yeah but no but!

there's plenty of stuff i loved as a teenager and younger that i still do love, i just realised that morrison is the vanguard of gsce like poetry. Pink Floyd aren't really gifted musicians with a beautiful vision of the world, and Bill Drummond will not be at the forefront of the revolution.

You're diluting what you said earlier with logic now - i.e subtely changing your opinion with out being as bold to come out and say it.

 

[Firky]

Yeh, the thing on the Doors thread seemed to be about saying your music experience as a 14yo is more authentic and direct than as an adult, and if you revise yr opinion you are betraying the pure experience. Loada crap obviously.

This thing about not caring about cool I don't agree with though. No-one is exempt from fashion. People who say they don't care how they present themselves often say this precisely as a fashion statement. It's not wrong to reject something because it doesn't fit into your notion of cool!

Some of us follow doherty around but that's OK because we're being ironic to something iconic - not fashionable, or cool, no sir! I'm so uncool and cool i am mobius loop!

 

[gentlegreen]

For some people it's unfortunately very true ... I know people my own age who started praising Radio 2 in their 30s because they didn't "get" dance music ...

Personally I can't get enough new stuff - though, by the time you reach my advanced age, you do slow down a tad ...

I've always looked for stuff off the beaten track. The first music I got into as a kid was "early music" , then my dad turned me onto 20th century English music .... thence to Modern Jazz, soul, punk, reggae, dub, house, hiphop, R&B ....

The 50 raves in my late 30s changed everything of course ...
After my first all nighter I came back home and chilled to Elgar's "Enigma Variations" .....

To be honest it's all a bit more than I can take in these days now that you can type anything into "Live365" and the like and get just about any random thing you take a fancy to ...

I blame it on the drugs myself ...

 

[Cheesypoof]

Some of us follow doherty around but that's OK because we're being ironic to something iconic - not fashionable, or cool, no sir! I'm so uncool and cool i am mobius loop!

its when you say stuff like this that i wonder about you firks.

where do you get all this paranoia about people liking stuff to be popular or thinking stuff based on anyone else or what they think?

my ears live and breathe music and the colours of it and the onomatopoeia of the sounds of the words and stuff. I love captain beefheart, prince, syd barrett and pete for the exact same reasons and completely despise fawning sycophantical behaviour, groupiedom or anything like that. If you met me and saw the state of me and how scruffy i am and stuff you would get me i think

i have never done 'scenes' and i really dont think they are cool. You know how arrogant I am, do you honestly think I would follow around a bunch of fucktards fawning over pete? I know some of them and i hate these people. I never, ever go to after parties or anything -just the gig like anyone else. too old, arrogant and uninterested.

do you do this, or did you ever?

 

[Bazza]

Gentlegreen, what did you think to that Jill Scott album you ordered the other week?

 

[Eva Luna]

Story - thanks for the recommendation - I'll look into it.
Cheers for now.

 

[Dubversion]

where do you get all this paranoia about people liking stuff to be popular or thinking stuff based on anyone else or what they think?

well, you've accused people of it in the past for a start

 

[Hocus Eye.]

The Theory of Original Taste

I think that people are born liking certain kinds of music. For example I was born liking the Rolling Stones along with lots of other music. The fact that the Stones did not exist when I was born and therefore had produced no music does not alter anything.

Because I and many others were born liking the Rolling Stones then that is why they were formed and why they produced their music, just to to satisfy our musical tastes. It is like a musical equivalent to Original Sin, you are born with it.

Over the next few years it will be necessary for certain, as yet unknown, music to be created because I will like it and so will many others.



















probably

 

[ohmyliver]

Nothing is absolute in the nebulous space of the human mind, except death

or something like that