Mushrooms - anyone grown them?
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Johnny Vodka
The Abominable Scotsman
This looks like it might be a good bet for King Strophoria spawn. Thoughts?
Ann Miller's Speciality Mushrooms – Ann Miller's Speciality Mushrooms Ltd UK
www.annforfungi.co.uk
Johnny Vodka
The Abominable Scotsman
Probably going to go with these instead. Bit more expensive, but I like that they have a FB presence.
upcycledmushrooms.co.uk
Gonna cost me a small fortune in wood chips too. Not the cheapest science experiment!
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upcycledmushrooms.co.uk
Gonna cost me a small fortune in wood chips too. Not the cheapest science experiment!
Johnny Vodka
The Abominable Scotsman
So I went for these pegs in the end, after some communication with Ann, and got a load of wood chips ordered. Looking forward to receiving goods and getting started!
Johnny Vodka
The Abominable Scotsman
This is going to be the bed space. 
bimble
floofy
There’s a sign of life now! It’s the first stage, where the mycelium colonises the area.
I don’t think growing mushrooms in a bed of soil outdoors is the thing to do tbh, far as I can tell all micology requires a sterile environment at the early stages, maybe to ensure you get the mushrooms you want and not interlopers. And they don’t want the same things that other life forms want at all, not about light and soil.
ETA I think that’s wrong what I just said, it depends on the shroom. i am attempting to grow the err recreational ones not the culinary ones.
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gentlegreen
I hummus, therefore I am ...
corrugated cardboard is often used as an intermediate substrate both indoors andout..
Johnny Vodka
The Abominable Scotsman
Yeah, correct. However, although I am deliberately introducing King Stropharia mycelium, I won't complain if wavey caps and/or morels turn up to the party. If they don't, I might see if I can introduce them in the future. However, morels aren't so reliable and waveys you would need to start indoors from spores.
gentlegreen
I hummus, therefore I am ...
Once you have morels you can whizz them up in the blender with nutrients and spread them everywhere ...
Johnny Vodka
The Abominable Scotsman
Yes. It's good, but occasionally quite hard-going. There are various podcasts with Sheldrake, which are worth listening to too.
Johnny Vodka
The Abominable Scotsman
I have seen them growing out of wood chip before, at the previous care home my dad was in. Was almost tempted to bring my mushroom knife one visit. I've never tried them. Some places online say you need to encourage them with ash.
gentlegreen
I hummus, therefore I am ...
A flush came up in a neighbour's woodchip one year and I anguished about asking them for one or two - next time I passed they'd all been kicked across the garden
People are odd ...
Johnny Vodka
The Abominable Scotsman
That looks good and very healthy. My last indoor shroom kit went manky and ended up being expensive compost. Will try again at some point, maybe go for a few small pots (like I did the first time) - insurance policy if one spoils.
Johnny Vodka
The Abominable Scotsman
A flush came up in a neighbour's woodchip one year and I anguished about asking them for one or two - next time I passed they'd all been kicked across the garden
People are odd ...
Most people would have no idea what a morel is. If you google info about mushrooms & wood chip, it's common to find people asking how they can stop nasty mushrooms growing in their wood chip..
Johnny Vodka
The Abominable Scotsman
Pen is now in place. 
gentlegreen
I hummus, therefore I am ...
are you going to use cardboard ?
Johnny Vodka
The Abominable Scotsman
I started putting some cardboard in the bottom. You're supposed to layer it with cardboard and wood chips. Waiting on the wood chips to be delivered.
Johnny Vodka
The Abominable Scotsman
Johnny Vodka
The Abominable Scotsman
Set up my bed, then decided the pallet the chips came on could make a good growing frame & give the shrooms some extra shade. Might need to move the bed slightly now.
Johnny Vodka
The Abominable Scotsman
I'm doing a mushroom cultivation course this weekendI have a gardening customer with a bit of woodland (plus free logs/woodchip from a tree surgeon he knows) so planning to do loads of shiitake logs, fire pit morels and king stropharia and wavy caps in woodchip.
If you find a good source for morel and/or wavy cap spawn/spores, let me know. Haven't seen anything online that I would trust.
We used this on the course today for morels:
Black Morel Sawdust Spawn - Fire Pit Strain » Gourmet Woodland Mushrooms
Black Morel Sawdust Spawn for growing the highly prized Morel Mushroom outdoors using the simple and effective fire pit method.
www.gourmetmushrooms.co.uk
They have come up in the areas they inoculated on previous years' courses, not sure if they used the same supplier then though. They guy leading the course said he'd had morels grow into a stack of cardboard which he then was able to transplant them on.
Johnny Vodka my mistake, that supplier was mentioned yesterday but we used morel spawn from here.
Johnny Vodka
The Abominable Scotsman
Morels sound like a bit of a faff with having to make a fire. I wonder if that's really necessary?
Johnny Vodka
The Abominable Scotsman
A year on and so far nothing, though when I pulled up some buttercup plants that had taken root in the mushroom pit, I noticed some of the disturbed woodchips were white (mycelium hopefully). Maybe it needs to be a bit warmer for King Stropharia to start fruiting? I may also have layered the wood chips on too thickly? Not sure how long to wait before attempting again with sawdust spawn (which sounds like it could be more effective, but is more expensive)?
Funky_monks
Neo-Rustic
I'd say the opposite, it's a bit repetitive and I understood the central theme - to what extent can we say that consciousness exists in Fungi, the first time.
Never finished it, read about 3/4 of the way through.
"Mycelium Running" by Paul Stamets on the other hand....
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