MPs want to ban internal flights in UK and mount green propaganda campaign

[rioted]

The growth of cheap air travel has been one of the greatest things ever to happen for the working classes of this country.

And fuck the working class in the rest of the world.

 

[rioted]

You think that people won't travel looking for work in a crash?!

They'll get on their bikes!

 

[kyser_soze]

less travel isn't going to happen

It will when the oil runs out.

This is the fallacy of most of the arguments here about air travel. Unless someone comes up with a useable alternative to kerosene, the air industry's long term prospects last about as long as the oil - less from a mass transit POV since there's not going to be a 'budget' airline left when oil is trading at $300+.

 

[gosub]

"useable alternative to kerosene", if by usable you mean: will power an aircraft then already at the regulatory testing and approval stage, if by usable you mean: not at the expense of the world's poorest being able to eat, they are still working on that

 

[kyser_soze]

Are you talking about corn based alternatives? Got any links for that?

 

[DownwardDog]

Are you talking about corn based alternatives? Got any links for that?

USAF have flown F-15s on biofuel blends.

http://www.flightglobal.com/articles/2009/02/09/322208/usaf-drives-biofuel-bandwagon.html

And JAL have flown a 747 on a similar fuel.

http://press.jal.co.jp/en/release/200812/001076.html

 

[Lo Siento.]

does it strike anyone as typical that with all this´pump-priming´going on, all of the money went to propping up banks and not a penny of it on infrastructure projects like (for example) a high speed rail link? Fuck the French TGV, the French are good at stuff like that ... but the 243 miles from Seville to Madrid takes 2hrs 20 minutes. Whilst 330 miles from London to Edinburgh takes double that (at a cost of 200 quid no less).

 

[Falcon]

Non-issue. British Airways loss of £401m last year was driven by £3bn fuel costs at only $130 a barrel (temporary) oil price. We'll have $200 sustained shortly, at which point aviation will revert to a military application and sport of the uber-rich. Say cheerio to internal (and external, and cargo) flights, but don't worry too much about it arising from an act of political leadership.

This disaster is not set to happen in some science fiction future many years ahead, but in our lifetime. Unless we act now... these consequences, disastrous as they are, will be irreversible. There is nothing more serious, more urgent, more demanding of leadership
-Tony Blair, October 2006 Independent

A bit impractical actually...
-Tony Blair, January 2007 (responding to the suggestion that he should show leadership by not flying to Barbados for holidays Guardian)

 

[TylerD]

I do hope these cunts don't use cars or taxis to get to Westminster, or use internal flights or cars to go to their constituencies and conferences etc. If public transport, walking and cycle are good enough for us, they're good enough for them.