Oswaldtwistle
Banned
First 'types' now 'yummy mummys'.
Are you inventing a whole new language down there or summat?
Are you inventing a whole new language down there or summat?
Moving to London
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marty21
One on one? You're crazy.
Oswaldtwistle
Banned
you get yummy mummys in stokie too
But not in Stoke or Derby, so I hadn't the vaguest idea what she was on about
Luckily urbandictionary.com sorted me out
Paulie Tandoori
shut it you egg!
omg, tell me about it. i would posit the theory that 'yummy mummys' are the female genus of the 'type', with their 3-wheeler-buggies hogging the pavement space as they crow together outside the blue legume, discussing baby next and la redoute.....you get yummy mummys in stokie too
Oswaldtwistle
Banned
LOL, a bit of googling later and I get *exactly* where you are coming from.
Indeed I've got quite a mental image, LOLWe do get such people oop here, although in smaller numbers obv.
teuchter
je suis teuchter
Don't be silly.
Indeed, I'm not sure if Kabbes was taking the piss with those two.
Despite their braying reputations, both Clapham and Wimbledon are fairly nasty and towny at night, with boorish suburban style meat market clubs and dull boozers in the main. There are some very nice genteel bits, Wimbledon Village and the Clapham Old Town for example, but it's an uncomfortable mix in the main.
Despite their braying reputations, both Clapham and Wimbledon are fairly nasty and towny at night, with boorish suburban style meat market clubs and dull boozers in the main. There are some very nice genteel bits, Wimbledon Village and the Clapham Old Town for example, but it's an uncomfortable mix in the main.
Paulie Tandoori
shut it you egg!
That'd be Croydon then
I am also moving to London soon, and that pretty much sums up what I want. Decent transport links, good pubs, nice victorian buildings, reasonable rent and a distinct lack of dickheads. That netlettings site linked on page 1 is a god send, who ever linked to that, thank you. I have bugger all money and so realistically zone 3 upwards is a more likely option but I certainly don't want to be stuck out in suburbia miles away from anywhere. Nice parks are also definitely an advantage.FFS! the guy sounds like he's got a few bob and wants to stay somewhere decent! you're hardly going to want to stay somewhere like herne hill or stockwell or half the places folk are singing the praises of on here unless you're up against it.
i'd also say he should check out archway, highgate, chalk farm, around there. i've been around there for years. well cheap, lots of massive old houses, good tube service and night busses, can get anywhere and everywhere in london worth going to in 30 minutes from my door, lots of good old man pubs and crackin restaurants and fairly quiet unless it's st paddy's day, i've never had any stick or seen any trouble anyway and i'm out every night and stoatin back all hours.
to me what it's all about is:
1) location/accessability to everywhere by tube and bus.
2) old building, thick stone walls and large rooms, none of that new rubbish or knock through bollocks.
3) lack of nutters leaping about trying to rob folk or wallop them over the head to pass the time of day.
and as nice as you can get for as cheap as you can get
kabbes
First intersubjective, then internalised
Pfft. I live in a road of 27 houses in the middle of the woods that isn't even in a village, let alone a town. It takes me 90 minutes each way to get to my job in the Docklands. It's all a matter of what you're willing to give up to live where you want to live. I want to live in the middle of nowhere, so I have to accept a loooooong commute to get it.That'd be Croydon then
teuchter
je suis teuchter
People in the home counties and their idea of what counts as "middle of nowhere" is so quaint, bless 'em.
To the OP - I say forget about trying to find yourself the perfect place to live now. Find a cheap short-term rental for the first couple of months. Even if it's far from ideal, you'll probably not be sitting at home much, what with a new city to explore. £300pw should get you somewhere nice, but don't push yourself before you've got a job sorted, you don't want to find yourself stretched. £200pw should be ample to get a comfortable 1 bed somewhere reasonable for starters.
Wasting effort now finding somewhere to live, or signing up for a longer term rental, could scupper you when it comes to finding work. If you do want to continue in call centre management, you're unlikely to be working in central London so where you live could seriously restrict your job opportunities.
As you'll no doubt gather from the heated debates that these type of threads always seem to generate, whether you go North, South, East or West, you'll find some good places to live. London is a patchwork of neighbourhoods, with affluence and poverty often cheek-by-jowl. Frankly it's a daunting prospect to narrow the field, as there are 100's of neighbourhoods all with their own characteristics.
A hellish commute can make all the difference between loving London and hating it, so get sorted with a job first and then worry about where you're going to settle.
Wasting effort now finding somewhere to live, or signing up for a longer term rental, could scupper you when it comes to finding work. If you do want to continue in call centre management, you're unlikely to be working in central London so where you live could seriously restrict your job opportunities.
As you'll no doubt gather from the heated debates that these type of threads always seem to generate, whether you go North, South, East or West, you'll find some good places to live. London is a patchwork of neighbourhoods, with affluence and poverty often cheek-by-jowl. Frankly it's a daunting prospect to narrow the field, as there are 100's of neighbourhoods all with their own characteristics.
A hellish commute can make all the difference between loving London and hating it, so get sorted with a job first and then worry about where you're going to settle.
ChrisFilter
Like a boss.
And so speaks someone who's clearly never been to Herne Hill
In fact, so speaks someone who seems to rarely leave N and EC postcodes.
For a start, Clapham is just Islington with nicer surrounds. Same shower of wankers. Same wanky bars full of braying fuckwits. if you had to choose one or the other, it'd be Clapham every time if only because the area (as opposed to the people) is quite nice.
Secondly, as spanglechick says, Herne Hill is nice. Really nice. Superb housing stock, a load of wanky gastropubs, delicatessens, organic fishmongers, Olley's fish and chips. It also happens to have fantastic transport links and is within walking distance to the sights and sounds of Brixton. You also have an enormous park.
Really, before proffering advice, make you sure you check out the places you slag off first.
My favourite bit is when you then go on to recommend Archway and Chalk Farm
Archway has to be the biggest dump in London - I should know, I lived there for a year. It's only redeeming feature is being a bus ride away from the Heath. Other than that it's shit. Highgate is ok, but it's massively overpriced and no way near as nice as Herne Hill.You previous comments about 'I bet I know where he ends up living' are fair enough. A lot of people go through a similar process when moving into London:
Year 1, Live somewhere like Clapham/Islington. Spend your first three months pissing all your money up the well, have a great time, tell the world you love London. After about 9 months start getting a bit fucked off with the noise, the dirt, the traffic, the lack of greenery, start looking at flats in zone 2.
Year 2-5, Live somewhere cool in zone 2 or 3 like Brixton, Camden, etc. Love it for ages but inevitably get older, maybe shack up with someone, start thinking more of a nice park than proximity to clubs and gigs.
Year 5 onwards, settle somewhere more permanent, grown up.
I think our advice just urges the man to skip the first stage. Especially as he's older and in a relationship.
marty21
One on one? You're crazy.
And so speaks someone who's clearly never been to Herne Hill
In fact, so speaks someone who seems to rarely leave N and EC postcodes.
For a start, Clapham is just Islington with nicer surrounds. Same shower of wankers. Same wanky bars full of braying fuckwits. if you had to choose one or the other, it'd be Clapham every time if only because the area (as opposed to the people) is quite nice.
Secondly, as spanglechick says, Herne Hill is nice. Really nice. Superb housing stock, a load of wanky gastropubs, delicatessens, organic fishmongers, Olley's fish and chips. It also happens to have fantastic transport links and is within walking distance to the sights and sounds of Brixton. You also have an enormous park.
Really, before proffering advice, make you sure you check out the places you slag off first.
My favourite bit is when you then go on to recommend Archway and Chalk Farm
You previous comments about 'I bet I know where he ends up living' are fair enough. A lot of people go through a similar process when moving into London:
Year 1, Live somewhere like Clapham/Islington. Spend your first three months pissing all your money up the well, have a great time, tell the world you love London. After about 9 months start getting a bit fucked off with the noise, the dirt, the traffic, the lack of greenery, start looking at flats in zone 2.
Year 2-5, Live somewhere cool in zone 2 or 3 like Brixton, Camden, etc. Love it for ages but inevitably get older, maybe shack up with someone, start thinking more of a nice park than proximity to clubs and gigs.
Year 5 onwards, settle somewhere more permanent, grown up.
I think our advice just urges the man to skip the first stage. Especially as he's older and in a relationship.
hasn't worked that way for me
year 1-4, clueless - stayed with a mate in buckhurst hill in essex - it was on the tube so i thought it was central
then got a room share via the standard - moved to Acton - first room i saw advertised - ended up not liking the flat mates - rescued by a mate who had been let down by someone else - find myself in southfields - stayed there a couple of years - decided to move north as me and my flatmate both worked there - chose golders green, because it was on the northern line, we both worked near Kings cross, Stayed there, met mrs21 whilst living thereyear 4-19 moved to hackney - mrs21 lived there
that's it
teuchter
je suis teuchter
hasn't worked that way for me
year 1-4, clueless - stayed with a mate in buckhurst hill in essex - it was on the tube so i thought it was central
year 4-19 moved to hackney - mrs21 lived there
that's it
Didn't work that way for me either
Month 1-2 Stay in spare room in friend's flat off Baker St and spend most evenings looking for somewhere to live
Years 1-5 Live in Brixton (Stockwell end)
Years 5-9 Live in Brixton (Brixton Hill end)
That's it so far and I don't foresee it changing much for as long as I'm in London.
Moved back to London in 1995 after being away for about ten years.
Year 1 - me and then girlfriend shared a room in a house on Vauxhall Bridge Road, Pimlico. Alright area, house a dump.
Year 2 and 3 - we got onto a short-life housing association and had a Peabody flat awaiting modernisation near Westminster Abbey. Smelly stairwells, rats leaping around the rubbish bins, but good location and flat ok inside.
Year 4 - we split up and I moved into a crap bedsit in Elephant & Castle for a few months, then the housing association found me a downstairs flat in Battersea with an outside toilet!
Year 5 to present - bought my own flat in SE14.
ime plans to live in this area or that area can easily go awry, it's more like being at the mercy of a lottery if you haven't much money.
Year 1 - me and then girlfriend shared a room in a house on Vauxhall Bridge Road, Pimlico. Alright area, house a dump.
Year 2 and 3 - we got onto a short-life housing association and had a Peabody flat awaiting modernisation near Westminster Abbey. Smelly stairwells, rats leaping around the rubbish bins, but good location and flat ok inside.
Year 4 - we split up and I moved into a crap bedsit in Elephant & Castle for a few months, then the housing association found me a downstairs flat in Battersea with an outside toilet!
Year 5 to present - bought my own flat in SE14.
ime plans to live in this area or that area can easily go awry, it's more like being at the mercy of a lottery if you haven't much money.
kabbes
First intersubjective, then internalised
Well, as middle of nowhere as you can get before extending a 90 minute commute into a 3 hour commute, anyway. Even I have my limits.
ChrisFilter
Like a boss.
Perhaps I should have stated that my 'standard migratory schedule' was pretty specific to middle-class kids who head to London for uni or a job. They inevitably have mates who think that Clapham and Islington are, like, awesome and that you've got to come to inferno's at the weekend. You'll totally get laid.
marty21
One on one? You're crazy.
i came to london after university - that would make me middle-class i guess, my schedule was initially based on where a mate was living who'd come up a few months before, then based on what i could find in the standard, still not having a clue about london - then based on agreeing to live somewhere fairly convenient for work, then based on wanting to live with a partner who had a housing association place, then deciding to buy in the same area
ChrisFilter
Like a boss.
I didn't say everyone followed that pattern, just a depressing amount. The kinda people that love The London Paper and London Lite.
marty21
One on one? You're crazy.
Northern Uproar
They call me Beever
Wow I have really started something here - It's been really interesting and worth while reading everyones views. Despite all the mixed messages you have all given me a great starting point.
This kind of information is just what I was after and really has helped. Certainly when I come down for a week in October I will be checking out quite a few of the places mentioned especially after doing a bit of googling.
This kind of information is just what I was after and really has helped. Certainly when I come down for a week in October I will be checking out quite a few of the places mentioned especially after doing a bit of googling.
ChrisFilter
Like a boss.
Well, it's an important decision. Once you choose a manor you have to be prepared to fight tooth and nail to defend it during battles on internet forums.
My honest, non-biased view of the situation is that the following areas are great for your needs:
Herne Hill
Brixton
East Dulwich (although not as great for Victoria)
Bits of Peckham and Nunhead
Balham
Highgate
Kentish Town
Personally, having lived in both, I have a strong preference for South London. There really is a noticeable difference in lifestyle (not to mention cost). At the end of the day, however, moving where your mates are is probably your best bet. London is so vast it takes time to find area that you love beyond all others. It took me about 4 years of living here to even begin to give the different areas a fair comparison.
Just avoid west London, zone 1, Islington, clapham, wandsworth, battersea, elephant and castle, archway and you'll be fine.
scifisam
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Agreed, apart from Highgate and Kentish Town, due to travel. I'd add Whitechapel, too - on the district line, easy for Victoria and lots of other places.
chico enrico
No hair shows you care.
sorry, maybe i'm getting confused between clapton and clapham. It's the place which is near hackney i think that i was meaning is a total dump. Went there once and in the space of a matter of hours some nutter tried to rip the bag off the girl i was with and then we walked by a children's primary school thing to get to her flat and there were all these junkies who kinda emerged from inside dustbins and out of holes in the ground, grasping at us with witchy crooked hands for money, like a scene out of day of the dead.
also, how comes everyone on here seems to think brixtion is so great?
i have never had a fun time there. it just seems really horrible to me apart from that pizza restaurant in the market and the shop that sells voodoo candles and stuff that's good if you're stuck for an idea for what to get someone as a wee present. same goes for stockwell which is even worse. like how you'd imagine london would be like after a nuclear war. fat folk staggering about holding cans of spaghetti hoops with their cocks hanging out and the like. fuck that.
and regarding:
East Dulwich (although not as great for Victoria)
Bits of Peckham and Nunhead
Balham
i've never been to any of these places so can't comment. in fact, nunhead and balham i've never even heard of so i dont imagine they can be much cop.
also, how comes everyone on here seems to think brixtion is so great?
i have never had a fun time there. it just seems really horrible to me apart from that pizza restaurant in the market and the shop that sells voodoo candles and stuff that's good if you're stuck for an idea for what to get someone as a wee present. same goes for stockwell which is even worse. like how you'd imagine london would be like after a nuclear war. fat folk staggering about holding cans of spaghetti hoops with their cocks hanging out and the like. fuck that. and regarding:
East Dulwich (although not as great for Victoria)
Bits of Peckham and Nunhead
Balham
i've never been to any of these places so can't comment. in fact, nunhead and balham i've never even heard of so i dont imagine they can be much cop.
chico enrico
No hair shows you care.
yea, the aldgate end of whitechapel is sound, though it gets worse the further down you go.
bethnal green's alright too up the top.
ChrisFilter
Like a boss.
Hahaha
Love the Stockwell description. I'm not a fan either, but it's not quite on that level.And, without being too rude, if you don't know Clapham from Clapton I don't think judging a place on whether you've heard of it is particularly worthwhile
Nunhead is neighbour to Peckham. Lots of greenery, lovely cemetry and parks. Balham is pretty wanky, people move there after a couple of years in Clapham. Smart, good housing stock, gastropubs and delicatessens.
Brixton is popular 'cos of it's personality and atmosphere. Based on your posts I'm not surprised you're not a fan. It's certainly for to everyone's tastes and that's fair enough. I love Brixton and lived there for years, but I don't think I'd recommend it to a newcomer to London.
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