Movie Badasses

[sojourner]

Winstone only counts in Scum, but not in Nil By Mouth.
Don't think Considine counts in Dead Man's Shoes.
Star Wars characters don't count.

you have the nerve to say that after YOUR public fuck up?

 

[sojourner]

I don't think he counts as a badass in Nil by Mouth more like "Vile terrifying cunt"

Bogart in the Big Sleep

I'm obviously confusing the issue here

So badass = 'good' vile terrifying cunt, then?

 

[Orang Utan]

you have the nerve to say that after YOUR public fuck up?

What's that got to do with my fuck up though?

 

[8den]

A) He has no name, all the greatest movie badasses have no name.

B) "I have come here to chew bubblegum and kick ass. And I'm all out of bubblegum"

C) of the greatest movie fights ever.

 

[Orang Utan]

I'm obviously confusing the issue here

So badass = 'good' vile terrifying cunt, then?

Badasses are heros.

 

[isitme]

Steve Buscemi in Things to Do in Denver...

 

[Orang Utan]

A) He has no name, all the greatest movie badasses have no name.

B) "I have come here to chew bubblegum and kick ass. And I'm all out of bubblegum"

C) of the greatest movie fights ever.

He has a name

 

[sojourner]

What's that got to do with my fuck up though?

dunno - just thought I'd throw it in

 

[The Octagon]

Badasses are heros.

Since when?

What's the definition then?

 

[sojourner]

Badasses are heros.

ah okay - it was the 'bad' and the 'ass' bit that threw me

 

[Orang Utan]

Since when?

What's the definition then?

A hero who is double hard and inspires admiration through their fighting skills and unflappable demeanour

 

[8den]

I'm obviously confusing the issue here

So badass = 'good' vile terrifying cunt, then?

A badass is;

good, bad, tough, cool, kicks righteous ass, smart.

Pick any three adjectives and if they apply to a character, they're a badass.

Shaft, tough, cool, kicks righteous ass.

Mr Blonde, tough, bad, and cool.

Lee Marvin in Point Break, tough, cool, smart.

The Bride in "Kill Bill", Cool, tough and kicks righteous ass.

Ray Winstone in Nil by Mouth, is bad and tough. Thats it.


Simple really.

 

[Pieface]

Sigourney Weaver in Alien(s) etc

 

[8den]

He has a name

Only in the credits, it's never said in the film, sort of a Withnail & I thingy.

 

[sojourner]

A badass is;

good, bad, tough, cool, kicks righteous ass, smart.

Pick any three adjectives and if they apply to a character, they're a badass.

Shaft, tough, cool, kicks righteous ass.

Mr Blonde, tough, bad, and cool.

Lee Marvin in Point Break, tough, cool, smart.

The Bride in "Kill Bill", Cool, tough and kicks righteous ass.

Ray Winstone in Nil by Mouth, is bad and tough. Thats it.


Simple really.

kicks RIGHTEOUS ass? fuck me, this is getting more complicated by the minute


err, Pam Grier then, in Jackie Brown. Although she doesn't actually 'kick' any 'ass' as such, in a physical way, at least

 

[kyser_soze]

Steve McQueen in:

Bullit, The Getaway, Towering Inferno...ahh, the list is too long. Steve McQueen, generally. Even when he's playing a sensitive character, he's still a badass.

I think Gene Hackman has played some pretty badass roles - Unforgiven, French Connection...

 

[8den]

kicks RIGHTEOUS ass? fuck me, this is getting more complicated by the minute

Look it's really simple, the Prophet Jules laid it out, in the book of badsss

Jules: The path of the righteous man is beset on all sides by the iniquities of the selfish and the tyranny of evil men. Blessed is he, who in the name of charity and good will, shepherds the weak through the valley of darkness, for he is truly his brother's keeper and the finder of lost children. And I will strike down upon thee with great vengeance and furious anger those who would attempt to poison and destroy my brothers. And you will know my name is the Lord when I lay my vengeance upon thee.

If the ass getting whupped doesn't deserve the whupping, then you're unrighteously administrating an asskicking. Which makes you a bad guy.

Now a bad guy can be a badass and unrighteously kick ass provided he fills some of the other criteria for badassdom, he's just not going to become a badass kicking the shit out of the hero.

Look we call it the "Walken effect". Christopher Walken is most clearly a badass in "True Romance"

Is Christopher Walken a badass because he kills Dennis Hopper? No.

He's a badass because he's so smart, bad and cool.

Sicilians are great liars. The best in the world. I'm Sicilian. My father was the world heavy-weight champion of Sicilian liars. From growing up with him I learned the pantomime. There are seventeen different things a guy can do when he lies to give himself away. A guys got seventeen pantomimes. A woman's got twenty, but a guy's got seventeen... but, if you know them, like you know your own face, they beat lie detectors all to hell. Now, what we got here is a little game of show and tell. You don't wanna show me nothin', but you're tellin me everything. I know you know where they are, so tell me before I do some damage you won't walk away from.

 

[sojourner]

Look it's really simple, the Prophet Jules laid it out, in the book of badsss



If the ass getting whupped doesn't deserve the whupping, then you're unrighteously administrating an asskicking. Which makes you a bad guy.

Now a bad guy can be a badass and unrighteously kick ass provided he fills some of the other criteria for badassdom, he's just not going to become a badass kicking the shit out of the hero.

Look we call it the "Walken effect". Christopher Walken is most clearly a badass in "True Romance"

Is Christopher Walken a badass because he kills Dennis Hopper? No.

He's a badass because he's so smart, bad and cool.

I'm not playing anymore, I don't like this game

 

[Pieface]

General Woundwort in Watership Down.

 

[Griff]

Look we call it the "Walken effect". Christopher Walken is most clearly a badass in "True Romance"


He's a badass because he's so smart, bad and cool.

I was about to say Walken in True Romance.

 

[sojourner]

General Woundwort in Watership Down.

You'd best check the bible to see if rabbits can be badasses

 

[spanglechick]

A hero who is double hard and inspires admiration through their fighting skills and unflappable demeanour

so why doesn't paddy considine in dead men's shoes count?

 

[Orang Utan]

He's not a hero. He's a psychopath.

 

[isitme]

Commando

 

[The Octagon]

He's not a hero. He's a psychopath.

Surely Eric Bana in Chopper is a psychopath?

 

[Orang Utan]

Surely Eric Bana in Chopper is a psychopath?

You're right - get rid of him

 

[sojourner]

Everyone I think of is either a vile terrifying cunt, or a psychopath

I keep sitting up in my chair going 'I know!! Oh, no'

 

[vogonity]

Another vote for Pam Grier in Jacky Brown

Indeed, in the department store scene, a shop assistant says to her, "If you wore that suit in a business meeting, you would look the badass," what more proof do you need?

 

[Orang Utan]

She doesn't hit anyone though

 

[vogonity]

She doesn't hit anyone though

True, but she's super-cool, sexy and smart enough to get others to do the hitting for her...