Mouthing off incidents on the tube

[Mrs Magpie]

btw CS gas isn't used in the UK, it's CS spray which is considered safer.

 

[Mrs Magpie]

Another fact about CS....in South Africa where it was widely used, it was responsible for the deaths of babies. Their lungs would be affected and they would die as their lungs filled with fluid.

 

[Blagsta]

I've been in a pub when someone has set off some pepper spray - not very pleasant.

 

[Donna Ferentes]

What did they do for salt?

 

[Oxpecker]

btw CS gas isn't used in the UK, it's CS spray which is considered safer.

I stand corrected.

That's happening a lot these days

 

[Gavin Bl]

I'm not talking about rules others have made. I'm talking about me, and what I feel to be right.

I agree - my Luger is rarely cold on public transport.

 

[Donna Ferentes]

I stand corrected.

That's happening a lot these days

Anno domini?

 

[tippee]

I can be quite "interesting" on tube journeys after work, especially after downing a couple of Newcastle Broon Ales for my 2 hour journey home.

Had the shrugging shoulders and nonchalant reaction from passengers standing by the door when I want to get off at a station - my solution is to say to them:

"can you move please, I will be getting off at this station, and I'll pull the alarm if I can't get off", which means they'll be stuck for a few minutes until the driver resets the doors.

I blame the passengers least though, the staff I pity, it's the utter cunt management that gets the most of my wrath, and there was a time I'd enjoy nothing more than coating paper in superglue and feeding it into the ticket machines to damage their profits...

What a prize prick you are! That's not going to damage profits, it's just going to piss a lot of people off - you inadequate pillock.

The subcontractors (a private company, of course) will be making hundreds of pounds from each repair job you cause. Stephen Norris owes you a drink.

Don't pity the staff, we get 10 weeks off a years and earn good money. And we deserve it, having to restrain ourselves from the urge to knock twats like you into the middle of next week is a highly underestimated skill...

 

[Isambard]

Experienced travellers with a regular route know they need to get on the train at that end to have a decent connection when they change etc. So while you're still waiting for people to get off the tannoy etc is moaning at the passengers to use all the doors and get on quicker!

 

[tippee]

At the time, it was a simple equation - they were spending more time and money on protecting their revenue than protecting passenger safety.

One shiny new computerised ticket machine, in a hall of many, given the glue treatment must have surely hit that profit margin...

The types of action which you endorse would lead to an increase in the number of staff assaults caused by the now ticketless public, thus leading to less staff on stations, thus leading a less safe railway.

PK, you are a bit of a simplistic idiot really aren't you?

Can you tell me when 'they were spending more time and money on protecting their revenue than protecting passenger safety.'? Or did you read it in the Standard?

 

[Oxpecker]

Anno domini?

You're getting me confused with pbman; he's the Latin expert. I'm a poor simple tube driver.

 

[Oula]

I had a drunken business man threaten to kill me for asking him to stand on the right of the escalator. Thing is, I wasn't that bothered but the people bwehid me were all getting annoyed so I politely asked him if we could move. He started shouting at me "Nobody tells me what to do! Or else!" When I asked "Or else what?" he did that drawing his finger across his throat thing.

We carried on rowing for a bit - then I went and told the station staff that he had threatened to kill me. They went with me on the train to the next station to make sure I was ok.

 

[Epona]

and there was a time I'd enjoy nothing more than coating paper in superglue and feeding it into the ticket machines to damage their profits...

If I'm ever stranded far from home late on a Saturday night and forced to walk to another station in the dark because some complete c*nt has glued up the ticket machines leaving me unable to get on the tube, I'll think of you pk.

We can't all jump over the barriers, fucks sake I can't even walk properly.

 

[kittyP]

I was once standing up on a tube, quite a few years ago, with a reasonably gobby but pretty girl that i went to college with. All of a sudden she held this blokes hand up in the air and said "does any one know who this belongs to coz i just found it on my arse"!!

You could tell by the blokes reaction that he had indeed been touching her arse and was highly embarrassed.

I would never have had the guts but good on her!

 

[zenie]

I was once standing up on a tube, quite a few years ago, with a reasonably gobby but pretty girl that i went to college with. All of a sudden she held this blokes hand up in the air and said "does any one know who this belongs to coz i just found it on my arse"!!

You could tell by the blokes reaction that he had indeed been touching her arse and was highly embarrassed.

I would never have had the guts but good on her!

Wicked

That remindes me of a story my Mum told me. She was in the tube inthe seventies or eighties and a man groped her bum she had these big fuck off stilettos on so slowly stepped backwards hard on his foot. When he yelped she said sarcatically 'Oh I am so sorry did I stand on your foot'

 

[pk]

Since they put those Rottweiler gates in, they have clearly been focusing more on profit than safety.

Before the London attacks I've been made to walk the remainder of my journey because the train breaks down or the temperature in the carriages is through the roof - illegal for cattle transport never mind humans.

Add to that the jobsworth cunt who insists you go through the Rott gates even though there's a wide open gate and you have a valid ticket, and I have no regrets whatsoever about gluing up a few ticket machines.

If you're really Underground staff, or any train company for that matter, then you might want to remind yourself next time you get in an argument with a passenger who doesn't want to take bagfuls of equipment through those shitty snappy gates (I broke one of them once too, it's still fucked - another story) that the customer is always right.

How the fuck any of this would actually lead to an increase in staff assaults I don't know... less jobsworthyness and more common sense in dealing with a frustrated public might even reduce assaults.

We have the most expensive fares in the Western world - I fully support fare evasion as often as you can get away with it.

The types of action which you endorse would lead to an increase in the number of staff assaults caused by the now ticketless public, thus leading to less staff on stations, thus leading a less safe railway.

PK, you are a bit of a simplistic idiot really aren't you?

Can you tell me when 'they were spending more time and money on protecting their revenue than protecting passenger safety.'? Or did you read it in the Standard?

 

[Pickman's model]

Or did you read it in the Standard?

have you examples where the standard's reported stuff about lt services inaccurately?

 

[Epona]

pk - you say you're interested in safety. What about the safety of those, such as myself, who may have to walk part of the way home late at night because the ticket machines are out of order and I can't get through the barriers?

Serious question, I'm not being deliberately argumentative, but it seems that while citing interest in passenger safety, people who do this sort of thing are actually putting people at risk when they may have to walk alone at night through parts of London they don't know looking for another tube station.

Genuinely confused.

 

[pinkmonkey]

pk - you say you're interested in safety. What about the safety of those, such as myself, who may have to walk part of the way home late at night because the ticket machines are out of order and I can't get through the barriers?

Serious question, I'm not being deliberately argumentative, but it seems that while citing interest in passenger safety, people who do this sort of thing are actually putting people at risk when they may have to walk alone at night through parts of London they don't know looking for another tube station.

Genuinely confused.

I think he might be trolling

 

[GarfieldLeChat]

It's stuff like that that makes me want to carry a weapon, something to equalise situations where the other bloke is bigger or fitter than you.

I might ask my mate who lives in the US to post me some pepper spray - you can just buy it in the shops over there.

Pepper spray is good - it works wellagainst someone attacking you, but its not like a knife - you aren't going to end up killing someone if it all kicks off. No lasting damage.

Giles..

great idea except of course for the warnings on the side of the packet don't use in confined spaces ... like erm say the tube...

pepper spray can and does block airways cause problems for asmatics and can cause suffocation, use it on the underground and you would effectivley ruin the entire carrage thus putting the train out of action and prolly affecting most of the people around you the upshot would be definate criminal proceedings and possibly jail time for such a stipid and irresponsible action...

oh and if you did it in a carrage with me in it i fucking break your fucking legs too...

 

[Epona]

I think he might be trolling

Oh I know pk likes a good bunfight

I'm more worried that others may see the thread and think it sounds like a great idea without considering that they may be putting people, especially women or those physically unable to jump the barriers, at risk by leaving them stranded!

 

[Giles]

great idea except of course for the warnings on the side of the packet don't use in confined spaces ... like erm say the tube...

pepper spray can and does block airways cause problems for asmatics and can cause suffocation, use it on the underground and you would effectivley ruin the entire carrage thus putting the train out of action and prolly affecting most of the people around you the upshot would be definate criminal proceedings and possibly jail time for such a stipid and irresponsible action...

oh and if you did it in a carrage with me in it i fucking break your fucking legs too...

I only said that if I had some, and if someone smacked me in the face, I would use it on them, as a general point. If someone physically attacks me, then all normal rules of play and considerations are suspended. I'm not going to waste time reading the damn manual, am I?

Giles..

 

[jæd]

Add to that the jobsworth cunt who insists you go through the Rott gates even though there's a wide open gate and you have a valid ticket, and I have no regrets whatsoever about gluing up a few ticket machines.

If you're really Underground staff, or any train company for that matter, then you might want to remind yourself next time you get in an argument with a passenger who doesn't want to take bagfuls of equipment through those shitty snappy gates (I broke one of them once too, it's still fucked - another story) that the customer is always right.

More the customer is a vandal who shouldn't be allowed on the Underground...!

 

[dylanredefined]

I think years ago at covent garden someone chucked a cs canister in
lift at the tube station killed a old lady rest of us had to walk up stairs which smelt of cs gas luckily just enough to give a bad taste in mouth in enclosed spaces those sort of things are lethal .

 

[Mrs Magpie]

I think I have a vague memory of reading about an incident like that....can't remember the details though

 

[Orang Utan]

I only said that if I had some, and if someone smacked me in the face, I would use it on them, as a general point. If someone physically attacks me, then all normal rules of play and considerations are suspended. I'm not going to waste time reading the damn manual, am I?

Giles..

Inconsiderate bastard - you'd spray someone for punching you? That's both cowardly and stupid. If someone smacks you once, you should turn the other cheek and get away from them, rather than making the situation worse by involving other innocent people and giving your assailant more reasons to hit you again.

 

[Isambard]

I'm not going to waste time reading the damn manual, am I?

You are Tony Martins young nephew and I claim my free Travelcard!

 

[Giles]

Inconsiderate bastard - you'd spray someone for punching you? That's both cowardly and stupid. If someone smacks you once, you should turn the other cheek and get away from them, rather than making the situation worse by involving other innocent people and giving your assailant more reasons to hit you again.

It's not "cowardly".

We're not talking about some sort of sport here.

If someone started on me, whether out of a motive of robbery, drunkenness or whatever, then I'm not going to play by some set of rules. This is the jungle, and there are no rules.

Giles..

 

[Orang Utan]

It's not "cowardly".

We're not talking about some sort of sport here.

If someone started on me, whether out of a motive of robbery, drunkenness or whatever, then I'm not going to play by some set of rules. This is the jungle, and there are no rules.

Giles..

So it would be fine for him to stab you then?
You can't raise the game and not expect to have it raised on you.
This is not a jungle and there are rules, you muppet.

 

[Mrs Magpie]

He can't help his mindset...he's a property developer called Giles...it's wrong to mock the afflicted.