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Motorway Middle Lane Hoggers

The way that Ruf accelerates from 170 mph on that last stretch is awsome, and when it slows back down to 175 it almost looks pedestrian. :D :cool:
 
sure thats mph?

I have done 160+ and to me the way the bridges were comming up didnt seem much faster...

mind you is there likely to be much diff between 160 and 200?
 
What m/w are people on that has the left hand land empty. All the ones I drive on are totally full of the limited 60mph lorries some 200m or less apart.

If I were to go into the left hand lane of a motorway I'd be constantly pulling in and out and often if you get caught in between a couple your fucked as you cant get the speed up to pull out safely.

Motorway driving these days is down to 2 lanes, the lorries have essentially taken over L1
 
Sunray said:
What m/w are people on that has the left hand land empty. All the ones I drive on are totally full of the limited 60mph lorries some 200m or less apart.

When I go down south, there's a huge difference between the M6 where I live (which is always chockablock with trucks) and the M40 (which does actually have an empty-ish left hand lane).
 
chymaera said:
That pisses me off on rural roads where you can't overtake. (They are usually tourists)

aint cornwall great. its my first summer down here and i'm learning quick. :D
 
chio said:
When I go down south, there's a huge difference between the M6 where I live (which is always chockablock with trucks) and the M40 (which does actually have an empty-ish left hand lane).

isnt that the point though. i live in cornwall so i'm well versed in travelling along the A30 which is dualled and the M5 which is three laned. i dont care when the M5 is empty and there is someone in the middle lane. all i do is overtake them by going from lane 1 to lane 3 and then back to lane 1. i dont see why i should drive incorrectly or badly because someone else is. whether they note my driving or not i dont really care. all i know is that i've taken what i believe to be the correct procedure to pass them. i very very rarely flash someone to move over and partly because i dont drive a powerful car i very rarely undertake. if i did i'd take great pleasure in driving badly just to show up someone elses inadequacies. not having a powerful car (yes i drive a 1.4l car) means i'd get myself in to more difficulties/problems if i did undertake.
 
Spion said:
Are you nervous overtaking on the M-way?
am i fuck as like :D thats the last thing that could be said. I'd like to think (and have been told) I'm a good, safe driver. Besides, I never said it was nerve racking, I said it wasn't safe in terms of being made to use it when there really is no need.

I have no time for mlh (not saying you are btw, just I replied to you above :D), its laziness and bad driving. As is driving up peoples arse on the motorway, and many other things.

moose - I'd rather not find out myself if you don't mind :D I'll take your word for it!
 
Everyone should be made to drive motorways in convertibles with the roof off - marvellous for focusing the mind on the task in hand.
 
moose said:
Everyone should be made to drive motorways in convertibles with the roof off - marvellous for focusing the mind on the task in hand.


The only way I'd be happy on the M6 is in an armoured tank. :D
 
the m6 is fine moomoo :) honestly

I'll take you on it after I've shown you hill starts :D
 
I use the motorway (M6/M56/M60 in the NW) quite a lot, but I don't really understand how it works. It'd be nice if they'd take you on there in driving lessons, especially somewhere like here where the motorway's often the main route you use locally. I've only driven for 18 months, but I've been everywhere from the Scottish islands to outer London and still don't quite get motorways :o

I think a lot of the time, people think I'm sitting in the middle lane because I'm doing 70 when passing a truck that's stuck at 60. I very very rarely go over 70 (same goes for speed limits on other roads) because I'm nervous of being caught by speed cameras; I couldn't afford to drive if I was flashed, insurance prices are silly enough without points affecting them. But the left-hand lane seems to be for trucks and grannies crawling along at 50 or 60, then the other two lanes appear to be generally seen as places to do 80-odd. Am I the only person in England who actually tries to stick at 70 on the m-way?
 
Yes. :p

Best £25* I ever spent was on a BSM motorway lesson the week after I passed my test. Took all the fear out of it. You could do that, moomoo. :)

*it's probably gone up a bit over the years
 
chio said:
But the left-hand lane seems to be for trucks and grannies crawling along at 50 or 60, then the other two lanes appear to be generally seen as places to do 80-odd. Am I the only person in England who actually tries to stick at 70 on the m-way?

That was what the old farts on the radio were saying today, they seemed to think it was (as do a lot of people) a slow lane.

Nothing annoys me more if I'm doing a safe 80-85 on an empty inside lane on an empty motorway in my far from powerful Polo diesel and I come up to a car in the middle lane doing 65-70.

I generally don't undertake and when I jump the two lanes to overtake and return back to the inside lane, I usually give them a flash as I overtake. 7 times out of 10 times when I look back they've moved into the inside lane.

Why do people need to be told how to drive on motorways? :confused:

To Sunray, you don't have to be far from London for empty motorways, the M11 South to London is pretty clear most times until you reach the M25, even then it's pretty good, and that was when I was driving on it rush-hour until a few months back.
 
Griff said:
That was what the old farts on the radio were saying today, they seemed to think it was (as do a lot of people) a slow lane.

Nothing annoys me more if I'm doing a safe 80-85 on an empty inside lane on an empty motorway in my far from powerful Polo diesel and I come up to a car in the middle lane doing 65-70.

I generally don't undertake and when I jump the two lanes to overtake and return back to the inside lane, I usually give them a flash as I overtake. 7 times out of 10 times when I look back they've moved into the inside lane.

I don't understand a word you're saying there; you're speaking that odd driver-speak usually only heard on AM radio phone-ins :p Which one's the inside and outside lane? Why do you have the right to do 80-85 when the limit's 70?
 
chio said:
Which one's the inside and outside lane? Why do you have the right to do 80-85 when the limit's 70?

Jesus Christ, and you're allowed to drive? :confused:

Stick to driving to the local supermarket in a 900cc car. :)
 
Griff said:
Jesus Christ, and you're allowed to drive? :confused:

Stick to driving to the local supermarket in a 900cc car. :)

If I didn't have to drive, I wouldn't bother. As soon as they make public transport reasonably regular and stop charging silly money (do they diamond-encrust train tickets before 9am or something?!), I'll leave you in peace on the roads. Trust me on that one; I can do without my mornings being filled with the likes of you! I already do try and use other transport where I can; if I have to go into a city, I stick the car near a station just outside and get the train in.

I'm tired of being seen as an inconvenience to be shoved out of the way by self-important people just because they're driving a BMW/Lexus/whatever and see themselves as having the divine right to drive everywhere at the speed of a fighter jet ("I can handle it, I'm dead safe me"). I don't crawl about, I just stick to limits; they must have been put there for some reason and even if they haven't, I can't afford the penalty for breaking them!

(I walk to the supermarket.)
 
No offence chio. :)

Where I live, I have to drive to work, and believe it or not I generally stick to the speed limits, especially through the 30 mph viliages I pass to go to work., or in fact any 30 mph limits *gets out clean licence*, and generally have a hatred of people breaking the laws.

But this is about fast motorways, fast clear roads where 80 mph is the norm, and the people who fuck up the system by not having a clue about them and having no lane discipline who just sit in the middle lane.

And you really should get rid of that BMW/Lexus mentality about getting from A-B on a motorway quickly and safely. ;)
 
chio said:
I don't crawl about, I just stick to limits; they must have been put there for some reason and even if they haven't, I can't afford the penalty for breaking them!

Well as far as the 70 mph limit goes, rumour has it that AC Cars tested their Le Mans Coupe version of the 289 Cobra:

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at 196 mph on the M1 in the mid '60s, hence bringing in the 70 mph limit. A time when most cars that people owned would struggle to 80 mph.

Car technology in the fields of performance, braking, safety and handling have moved on don't you think, and to be honest 10 mph over the legal 70 does seem the norm. 40 Odd years on.
 
Well that's the thing with speed limits, most of them set when your average car was very different to what's driven today.
 
Dhimmi said:
Well that's the thing with speed limits, most of them set when your average car was very different to what's driven today.

But 30 or even 20mph should be applied.

Motorways are different, no pedestrians.

Unfortunately it will take time for this country to adjust to a higher speed limit on motorways, purely due to the ignorance of lane discipline.

Look at Germany.
 
Yes, I should add I was really just talking about motorway driving. I've no time for folk tearing around on our small streets and roads.

You're quite right, I'm often baffled to find slow lane traffic moving at 60, middle lane at 62.5 and fast at 65.
 
Dhimmi said:
You're quite right, I'm often baffled to find slow lane traffic moving at 60, middle lane at 62.5 and fast at 65.

Sorry, read that a few times, and not sure where you're coming from.

Traffic conditions always dictate speed, and it seems quite normal this would occur . :confused:

Edited to add: Yes this occurs in my experience coming up to the M25 and after when there's a big build up of traffic, but normal motorway driving, I've never seen anyone at 65 in the outside lane
 
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