Crispy
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This is an excellent idea.think i might have to put dick boy on ignore - he winds me up every time
His name is detective-boy, btw.
Motorcyclist killed on Dulwich road?
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His name is detective-boy, btw.
dream_girl
waiting for my ban
Peace, brothers and sisters. If DG has had some frightening near misses with m/cs, it stands to reason that she's going to react to them negatively, just as I have a hard time liking alsatians because one bit my mother.
I think we can all agree that there's a fair sprinkling of See You Next Tuesdays using every mode of transport. I've been a motorcyclist, cyclist and car driver for decades and the group that irritates me the most is...forget it, it doesn't matter does it?
Back to the Dulwich Road incident. I went for a pootle along that stretch the other day and my typical speed there when traffic is light would be 40 because it's a wide, straight, open bit of road with good visibility and no particular hazards. And like many people I tend to ignore speed limits and ride quite briskly if I feel like it. I think it's fair to expect that a significant proportion of bikers will allow their speed to creep up to 40 there. And the odd one will do 50+. (I'm not making a judgement about the injured rider. As I said earlier, it could be argued that he was probably not speeding because he got away with fractures rather than death.)
So, does the road need a speed camera? I was recently told by someone who ought to know that speed camera locations are determined by the number of KSIs (incidents in which someone's been killed or seriously injured) over a given period. So a petition ought not to make any difference. I'm not sure whether the one that's been set up will achieve anything. Although I suppose it might be good PR for the local Lib Dems.
I think we can all agree that there's a fair sprinkling of See You Next Tuesdays using every mode of transport. I've been a motorcyclist, cyclist and car driver for decades and the group that irritates me the most is...forget it, it doesn't matter does it?
Back to the Dulwich Road incident. I went for a pootle along that stretch the other day and my typical speed there when traffic is light would be 40 because it's a wide, straight, open bit of road with good visibility and no particular hazards. And like many people I tend to ignore speed limits and ride quite briskly if I feel like it. I think it's fair to expect that a significant proportion of bikers will allow their speed to creep up to 40 there. And the odd one will do 50+. (I'm not making a judgement about the injured rider. As I said earlier, it could be argued that he was probably not speeding because he got away with fractures rather than death.)
So, does the road need a speed camera? I was recently told by someone who ought to know that speed camera locations are determined by the number of KSIs (incidents in which someone's been killed or seriously injured) over a given period. So a petition ought not to make any difference. I'm not sure whether the one that's been set up will achieve anything. Although I suppose it might be good PR for the local Lib Dems.
Antilocution: yet another shining example of your understanding of prejudice and discrimination ...dickboy is just an affectionate nickname i like to use
Gixxer1000
cant wheelie a shaftie :(
So another R1 or are you tempted by the orange side DB?
Don't know ... I do like the R1s ... but there's loads of nice alternatives about at the moment. Trying not to think too much about it at the moment as it'll be weeks before the bloody insurance company get their act together ...
dream_girl
waiting for my ban
what's it like being right all the time?
Would customs have to wear sunblock to look up your arse?
Bel
velvet snout of doom
slow down the agressive speedmerchant drivers now
Hi
I live off Dulwich Rd on Shakespeare. I am really bothered by speeding cars lorries etc who see a straight bit of road and put their foot down in case, heaven forbid, they should have to make way for another driver coming in the opposite direction. I've had my car smashed up parked outside my home, I've had a beautiful cat killed on the road, every time I cross the road I do so in fear that there will be an aggressive driver bearing down on me with the engine roaring and it needs to stop. Its not just Dulwich and Railton, its the toastrack of roads in between, particularly Shakespeare. I've signed the petition and will do any number of these in the interest of getting traffic calming introduced. If there's anyone in the know here, how is the best way to get this done?
Hi
I live off Dulwich Rd on Shakespeare. I am really bothered by speeding cars lorries etc who see a straight bit of road and put their foot down in case, heaven forbid, they should have to make way for another driver coming in the opposite direction. I've had my car smashed up parked outside my home, I've had a beautiful cat killed on the road, every time I cross the road I do so in fear that there will be an aggressive driver bearing down on me with the engine roaring and it needs to stop. Its not just Dulwich and Railton, its the toastrack of roads in between, particularly Shakespeare. I've signed the petition and will do any number of these in the interest of getting traffic calming introduced. If there's anyone in the know here, how is the best way to get this done?
Crispy
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I don't care who starts it, but this has got to stop. Right Now.
snowy_again
Slush
I got the bus this morning and did notice that most drivers ignore the pedestrian crossing by Chocolate Box / Effra Parade, and that that area could be improved with more signage / school children crossing notices. I'll see if some of the parents at Effra Early Years are also concerned, as there may be added clout if it comes from a statutory organisation.
wjh
Bill
I take my son to the Brockwell Park three or four times a week, crossing that zebra with a pushchair. I really have to stare down drivers to get them to stop and if they do stop they'll rev up and start up again when we're half way across.
Drivers coming around the corner from Morval road seem to be the worst, maybe they get distracted thinking about the Brixton Water Lane junction
before coming to the zebra.
I almost got killed on that zebra by a motorist who didn't even notice that a) there was a crossing there and b) there was someone on it. He did an emergency stop when I screamed Shit and I ended up nudging his bonnet. I think that crossing's badly sited as it's too near the bus stop (if you're travelling into HH), so you overtake a bus and suddenly there's a crossing.
Ms T
Honey-coloured ramparts
Agreed. It's also too close to the bend. Mind you, I am constantly amazed by the inability of some motorists to stop at zebra crossings. The one on Railton Road near the junction with Kellett Road is another case in point. I can't remember the number of times that I've made eye contact with a driver, so I know s/he has seen me, who then blithely sails past.
As a pedestrian and driver who is careful to stop at zebra crossings, it REALLY pisses me off.
No. The crossing has been there for years.
Suddenly you see the crossing. That is bad driving. You should always be able to stop safely in the distance you can see is clear. It is exactly the sort of driving that cameras are no fucking use at all in connection with and it is why the continuing obsession with ever more camera-based enforcement, often at the expense of other means, is actually leading to more danger on the roads.
Millions of people have millions of points, many for exceeding an arbitrary speed limit by a few miles an hour in circumstances where absolutely no actual danger was caused at all ... whilst psycho lunatics are free to drive around like maniacs, endangering other road users as much as they like, so long as they make sure they keep within the speed limit whenever there is a camera about (and they are very, very rarely sited in residential side streets where the dangers from speeding (even slightly) vehicles is greatest ... why is that ...
) or, alternatively, they don't give a fuck about registering their vehicle, getting insurance, etc. and hence the cameras simply collect a nice set of pictures of A.Another driving an unregistered vehicle ...EVERY failure to accord precedence on a zebra crossing BY DEFINITION includes significant, immediate danger to a vulnerable road user. Speed offences MAY, but frequently don't. Why the zero tolerance of the latter and the complete absence of interest in the former ... ?
I'm not one for hanging around on the bike where appropriate, but crashing pedestrian crossings, especially when someone is already on them, is unforgivable in my book.
About the only place I have some sympathy with a driver getting caught out by a crossing is the one at the southern end of Leman Street, just past the old cop shop and outside the new City Quarter development. For the past year the ground level vertical scaffolding for CQ has been surrounded by advertising, changing a 3" metal pole into a 1.5' column. As these columns are in a straight line parallel to the pavement edge it was very easy for pedestrians to approach that crossing totally hidden from oncoming traffic and only be visible as they stepped out onto the road. I've had a number of close calls there myself over the past year, recently its improved somewhat as there's only one or two columns left in place but its still dodgy.
I really struggle to understand how on earth those advertising hoardings were approved so close to a crossing and deployed in such a stupid manner
Winot
I wholeheartedley agree with your viewpoint
Because the latter can be policed with cameras but the former can't? Totally agree that failing to stop at a zebra crossing should be penalised but how in practice can this be done with the limited resources given to traffic policing? Any ideas DB?
Thanks to everybody who has signed the petition so far.
I've not had much of a chance to do much recently due to a massive impending house move.
However I'll get more onto it once I've moved.
In the meantime I've established a Facebook group in parallel for the campaign - it's a non-party labelled group - which should allow some of you who are uncomfortable (for inexplicable reasons to me) with signing a Lib Dem campaign to sign up to.
It's here:
http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=14660442630
I've not had much of a chance to do much recently due to a massive impending house move.
However I'll get more onto it once I've moved.
In the meantime I've established a Facebook group in parallel for the campaign - it's a non-party labelled group - which should allow some of you who are uncomfortable (for inexplicable reasons to me) with signing a Lib Dem campaign to sign up to.
It's here:
http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=14660442630
Foot duty, vehicle and traffic patrols, tasked with doing something about it. If the Safer Neighbourhood Team (or anyone else) made some high visibility sorties to observe and report offences it wouldn't take long for the message to get around. There is very little about policing which is rocket science - all it takes is the will to do something rather than not.
For the last six months EVERY traffic patrol I have seen engaged in some specific activity (as opposed to just driving around) have ALL been engaged in speed enforcement ... mostly using their new laser, digital guns which just clock the registration and later get downloaded into a system which issues tickets so there is no need to even stop the vehicle. Fucking cameras do this - why on earth are officers just doing even fucking more of it? And, if they must, why the fuck don't they stop the vehicles and report people face-to-face and (inevitably) pick up unlicensed / uninsured / unregistered drivers and vehicles and (occasionally) proper crims?
(As before this is a rhetorical question - it is because they have been infected with the simplistic "Speed Kills" mantra ... and they have extended that psychologically to "and nothing else does" ...
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