Motorbike suggestions

Discussion in 'transport' started by RubyToogood, Apr 10, 2009.

  1. RubyToogood

    RubyToogood can't remember what goes here

    Well... I haven't really got any money so I'll be saving up for a while, but it doesn't hurt to think about what I might want. And it might make sense to sell the 125 while there's nothing much wrong with it rather than hang on till I have to get a new bike. I haven't even looked at any bike porn yet, I really hadn't thought further than getting through the test.

    Requirements:

    • I didn't do Direct Access so am limited to 33bhp
    • Budget - tight (so second hand from Loot or wherever probably)
    • Will mostly be using it for getting round town, but must be comfortable going further afield (although I'm not likely to be touring Europe)
    • Don't like sports bikes or Harley type things, more into your classic type bikes.
    Where do people get bikes from these days anyway? It always used to be Loot and the Used Bike Guide. Has it all gone online now?

    I do really like classic bikes, but need something reliable one can get parts for, so it's not necessarily the best choice. Although my first bike was from 1979, had spent most of its life in a garage, and ran well till it started dying. It didn't compare for reliability to the 1996 SR125 I've got now though - but I've never truly loved the SR, it has no soul...

    Feel free to pitch in with stupid suggestions and random bike porn.
     
  2. nick h.

    nick h. Eat

    How about a Bros? A friend of mine has one and they're cheap to keep going. Great for town use and you can stick a cockpit fairing on for motorways without ruining its looks. He got his on ebay. Just make sure you don't get one that's been despatched. If you're interested I can get a lot more info from the horse's mouth.
     
  3. Maurice Picarda

    Maurice Picarda Actually, might as well flounce.

    I thought about this recently and decided that a Honda CB500 made the most sense. Cheap, reliable commuter bikes. But Mrs Picarda put her foot down and said they were dangerous and nasty and I wasn't allowed one.
     
  4. agricola

    agricola a genuine importer of owls

    You could do worse than getting a Suzuki SV650. Its cheap (£4300 brand new), reliable, great for in-town riding as it is both quite quick and really nimble, there are loads of them so parts are reasonably cheap, its far more fun than a CB500 and you can get restrictor kits (free if you get a brand new one).
     
  5. RubyToogood

    RubyToogood can't remember what goes here

    This I like (1972):

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    This is foul (1997):

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    In fact example A is the grownup version of my first bike, the one I loved, which was a CB125J
     
  6. Jambooboo

    Jambooboo Who Loves You Baby?

    Why? I thought the only difference - other than that you have to be 21 or over - is that with the Direct Access you do the practical on a bike with >55bph.

    S'fugly.

    A Suzuki GSR600 is in a similar price range and IMO looks the shit; looks ace from behind - which is where most will be seeing you - with a proper beefy looking back wheel and exhausts.

    [​IMG]
     
  7. RubyToogood

    RubyToogood can't remember what goes here

    The point of doing Direct Access is that you do the test on a larger bike and can then ride anything you like. With the normal test you're restricted to 33bhp for the first 2 years.
     
  8. Jambooboo

    Jambooboo Who Loves You Baby?

    Sure, I know all that. Which is why I'm interested in why anyone would willingly restrict themselves for two years, when the practical test is seemingly no harder or easier.
     
  9. RubyToogood

    RubyToogood can't remember what goes here

    Because I'm not a speed freak, because I own a 125 already and didn't want to hire another bike and have to basically relearn all over again when I'm comfortable on the bike I've got, because it was mainly about getting through the test quickly and confidently before the changeover to the harder test in a few weeks' time, and because I don't anticipate needing or wanting anything really big in the next two years. I'm just not interested in speed or big bikes.
     
  10. geminisnake

    geminisnake a complex mass of conflicting ideas

  11. DownwardDog

    DownwardDog Riding a Brompton with a power meter.

    Suzuki are doing 0% finance and free restrictor kits at the moment.

    The new Gladius is quite cool in a faux-Monster sort of way.

    [​IMG]

    I wouldn't worry about the restriction to be honest. Buy whatever bike you like then get one of those snide restriction certificates off e-bay.
     
  12. DownwardDog

    DownwardDog Riding a Brompton with a power meter.

    I rented one in India and next time would choose to ride a water buffalo everywhere in preference to that thing.
     
  13. Pingu

    Pingu Credo

    an older sv650 or 650s imo looks much nicer than the new one

    a very forgiving bike and is well fun to ride.

    I have an R6 but have kept the sv (w reg s model) cos if i just want to get on and ride its much much easier than the R6 which demands you concentrate much harder.

    not the most exciting of bikes but they are reliable and cheap to run and if you are any good you can keep up with much sportier stuff on the twisty bits. A mate of mine who is a much better rider than I am has no problems keeping up with me on the R6 on some of the roads round here on the SV.
     
  14. obanite

    obanite Kroketten

    Bandit!
     
  15. Addy

    Addy cooking...

    Keep your current 125 and save up for the next 2 years and get a Buell :D
     
  16. spawnofsatan

    spawnofsatan Down by the river

  17. Cid

    Cid 慢慢走

    I'd get one of these:

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    or one of these:

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    But that probably doesn't help much... I'd also like one of these:

    [​IMG]
     
  18. RubyToogood

    RubyToogood can't remember what goes here

    I don't think I like modern bikes at all (to look at, anyway)... not keen on ANY of the suggestions so far, apart from the Triumph and the early CB500. An Enfield I think is a step too far, even for me. Anyway, I'm not going to get a Triumph at a price I can afford so we're still in fantasy land...

    I don't think I like the way most of the bikes posted go down in the middle and then up for the tank like a camel (or is it a dromedary), and I hate with a deadly passion the duck's arse that all modern bikes seem to have. Also, there's no way I'd want to take a spanner to any of those myself.
     
  19. RubyToogood

    RubyToogood can't remember what goes here

    Actually, perhaps I should rephrase the question. What really old, rock-bottom cheap second-hand bike can I get that won't keep dying on me and that I can actually get parts for, even if only from a breaker?
     
  20. nick h.

    nick h. Eat

    At the risk of repeating myself....


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  21. DownwardDog

    DownwardDog Riding a Brompton with a power meter.

    '99 or '00 Kawasaki W650. Looks old but doesn't make you want to kill yourself when trying to start it on winter mornings. There's 3 on Autotrader now...

    [​IMG]
     
  22. spawnofsatan

    spawnofsatan Down by the river

  23. nick h.

    nick h. Eat

    That's gorgeous (the W650 I mean...that Yamaha makes me ill). But the W650 is £2000+ and quite rare, so parts could be hard to get and expensive, esp. things like the tank and seat which you'll need when it falls over.

    The Bros goes for £800-1300 ish. Cheap parts are easy to get, partly because it was despatched so much, and partly because many parts are interchangeable with other Hondas, esp. the very common Revere/NTV.

    You would never have to go to a Honda dealer for anything - your friendly local workshop will already know the Bros backwards. If I was on a supertight budget I wouldn't risk many other bikes. Except for some really fugly things like the Honda CB500.

    You get more respect than you might expect on a Bros because it has grey import cred, ratbike cred, courier cred and race bike cred.
     
  24. DownwardDog

    DownwardDog Riding a Brompton with a power meter.

    The Bros is an excellent suggestion but it would have to be a 400 to get under the 33bhp limit.
     
  25. Cid

    Cid 慢慢走

  26. nick h.

    nick h. Eat

    Cid wins the thread.
     
  27. RubyToogood

    RubyToogood can't remember what goes here

    The Bros is horrible though. Yet another bike that looks like a trainer. Those wheeled sofas amaze me ^

    The W650 is pretty.
     
  28. Cid

    Cid 慢慢走

    Is it a car? Is it a bike? No it's a... er... hmmm.

    :hmm:
     
  29. DownwardDog

    DownwardDog Riding a Brompton with a power meter.

    The W650 further demonstrates its awesomeness by having bevel gear cam drive like a pre-1980 Ducati or Manx Norton.
     
  30. Cid

    Cid 慢慢走

    [​IMG]

    The new ones (which that one is) are going for about £3.5k on biketrader (which is probably way over your budget), the classic ones are more.

    My uncle had one like the one below (in green though), but I think he sold it.

    [​IMG]
     

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