Most Overrated Piece of Music

[Dillinger4]

all music is overrated. you are all twats.

 

[Orang Utan]

Not if it is undeniably great.

nothing is undeniably great - i can see how the beach boys' voices might grate

 

[ViolentPanda]

I don't get why people get moist over the Jimi Hendrix version of the Star Spangled Banner. It's basically a longwinded horrible piece of fretwankery that manages to be worse than the anthem it's from - which is in itself soporifically boring.

Maybe I'm missing the point and the source of the awesomeness is that Jimi actually got away with that shit because his sets were so good. Or some bollocks about social commentary. Gash song though.

I suspect that what you're missing is what it meant to different groups of people at the time he did it. To a lot of Americans, what he did was a transgressive act, messing around with the national anthem. Some of them saw it as a good thing, a re-appropriation of an affirmation of freedom, and others took it as an insult.
As purely a piece of guitar music it's okay, but nothing special, but in the right time and place it was, if not "revolutionary", at least a kick in the arse of the "my country, right or wrong" brigade.

And it upset the Birchers. What more could you want?

 

[HobgoblinMan]

nothing is undeniably great

Don Bradman, Reggae, Weed, black girls, Brian Jonestown Massacre etc.

 

[El Jefe]

Not if it is undeniably great.

OK.

Neutral Milk Hotel's In An Aeroplane Over The Sea is objectively, undeniably great and only a fool would claim otherwise.

 

[TrippyLondoner]

all music is overrated. you are all twats.

Yeah!

 

[Orang Utan]

OK.

Neutral Milk Hotel's In An Aeroplane Over The Sea is objectively, undeniably great and only a fool would claim otherwise.

it's ok. overrated for sure.
see, i just denied el jefe's assertion.

 

[HobgoblinMan]

OK.

Neutral Milk Hotel's In An Aeroplane Over The Sea is objectively, undeniably great and only a fool would claim otherwise.

See, you're getting hang of it now.

On Avery Island sucks balls though

 

[El Jefe]

it's ok. overrated for sure.
see, i just denied el jefe's assertion.

but you can't, dammit.

It's undeniable. And objective. Because... erm.. I said so!!!!

 

[Orang Utan]

Don Bradman, Reggae, Weed, black girls, Brian Jonestown Massacre etc.

who? (the first and last on that list)
there's a lot of shit reggae and i'm sure there's a few black girls who are rubbish. weed can make some people go mental.

 

[ViolentPanda]

Not if it is undeniably great.

It doesn't have undeniable greatness.
I deny that it is "great", therefore, its' greatness is not "undeniable".
You need to separate your own opinions (which, of course, matter a great deal to you), from the fact that the opinions of others may vary.
And you should also bear in mind that their opinions will be just as arbitrary, just as subjective, as your own.

 

[Dillinger4]

Other peoples opinions are wrong.

 

[TrippyLondoner]

Just enjoy what music you like rather than worrying about whats overrated.

 

[ViolentPanda]

see, I'd like to agree with you but hobgoblin's argument for the objective greatness of Pet Sounds is so damned compelling I fear we may both be wrong. I find my resolve wilting before the fire of his logic

You're trying for Owen Meany's title as "sarcasm master" again, aren't you?

 

[ViolentPanda]

all music is overrated. you are all twats.

Talking of twats....


...how's your mother?

 

[ViolentPanda]

Don Bradman, Reggae, Weed, black girls, Brian Jonestown Massacre etc.

Don Bradman was a cheat, Dillinger bores me, I've smoked some very sub-standard weed over the last 30 years, I went out with a psychopathic black girl back in the day, and the Brian Jonestown Massacre sucked shit through a bendy straw.

 

[Dillinger4]

Talking of twats....


...how's your mother?

I don't know, I don't talk to her because she is a twat.

 

[Dillinger4]

Don Bradman was a cheat, Dillinger bores me, I've smoked some very sub-standard weed over the last 30 years, I went out with a psychopathic black girl back in the day, and the Brian Jonestown Massacre sucked shit through a bendy straw.

 

[ViolentPanda]

Other peoples opinions are wrong.

Subjectively, of course they are, compared to your own.

 

[Dillinger4]

Subjectively, of course they are, compared to your own.

I think 'other peoples opinions are wrong' is something we can all agree on.

 

[TrippyLondoner]

I think 'other peoples opinions are wrong' is something we can all agree on.

No, that opinion is wrong to.

 

[Dillinger4]

No, that opinion is wrong to.

Exactly.

 

[ViolentPanda]

Just enjoy what music you like rather than worrying about whats overrated.

Precisely.
I freely admit that I occasionally play a Big Country album, and that I'm not bothered if that causes a few smirks on the board. I like an occasional blast of bagpipe-sounding guitar through my head and that's that, conformity to some idea of musical fashionability be fucked.

 

[ViolentPanda]

Not you, dear, the Reggae artiste.

 

[upsidedownwalrus]

i only like a couple of hendrix's songs. i think he's horribly overrated.

Thank fuck someone else does. I think he was a fantastic guitarist, but his songs were nothing special at all. Little Wing is the only one I really like.

 

[TrippyLondoner]

never been into hendrix meself.

 

[upsidedownwalrus]

Don Bradman was a cheat, Dillinger bores me, I've smoked some very sub-standard weed over the last 30 years, I went out with a psychopathic black girl back in the day, and the Brian Jonestown Massacre sucked shit through a bendy straw.

 

[upsidedownwalrus]

never been into hendrix meself.

Jefe hit the nail on the head and I think it's especially true with him - important at the time, but nothing that great about him tbh.

The only band from that time i'd listen to out of choice are the Velvets or maybe Led Zeppelin

 

[Orang Utan]

velvet underground are well overrated - i've never understood why so many bands who sound nothing like them cite them as influences.
venus in furs is great though

 

[TrippyLondoner]

Jefe hit the nail on the head and I think it's especially true with him - important at the time, but nothing that great about him tbh.

The only band from that time i'd listen to out of choice are the Velvets or maybe Led Zeppelin

Aye, btw not saying it wouldn't be enjoyable to someone else, just never been into his style really.