Most overrated actor or actress

[pennimania]

You dirty rotter

watch it!!!

 

[Nanker Phelge]

i can't believe that no one has nominated john wayne, he is the most one dimentional person, i refuse to even use the word actor for him, ever to appear on screen, from genghis khan to fighter pilot his every mannerism was exactly the same

You're right, but at the same time he did command the screen. he held flimsy films together through sheer presence alone. Even as a wooden actor he stood as a powerful man (in an old fashioned sense) and this did win out over his acting much of the time. I'm not arguing your point btw, but Wayne is like Eastwood, or Connery, Caine, Ford etc...stoic, one dimensional, no great shakes as an actor, yet able to fill the screen.

 

[FridgeMagnet]

I've only ever liked him at all in Get Carter, and that was when he was supposed to be a cunt.

 

[FridgeMagnet]

You're right, but at the same time he did command the screen. he held flimsy films together through sheer presence alone. Even as a wooden actor he stood as a powerful man (in an old fashioned sense) and this did win out over his acting much of the time. I'm not arguing your point btw, but Wayne is like Eastwood, or Connery, Caine, Ford etc...stoic, one dimensional, no great shakes as an actor, yet able to fill the screen.

You know what - I see the role being ascribed, but I never thought he filled it at all. Whenever I see him on screen I don't see an Eastwood or a Connery, I see a Roger Moore. In fact, worse than that.

 

[pennimania]

I've just remembered how terrible he was in the Battle of Britain

and I LOVE films about the Battle of Britain

 

[Deareg]

You're right, but at the same time he did command the screen. he held flimsy films together through sheer presence alone. Even as a wooden actor he stood as a powerful man (in an old fashioned sense) and this did win out over his acting much of the time. I'm not arguing your point btw, but Wayne is like Eastwood, or Connery, Caine, Ford etc...stoic, one dimensional, no great shakes as an actor, yet able to fill the screen.

not sure i can agree with you on this, though i have to admit i have never looked at it like that before, i think he would not even get a major role if he were starting out today, i will look out for what you said if i can force myself to watch a few of his films

 

[spanglechick]

I can't stand Caine.

I hate his flat south London accent - have held off from saying so because I thought evryone would think I was being a transpontine snob

but I detest/I]t the way he speaks.

great word! meaning - across the bridge?

 

[Nanker Phelge]

not sure i can agree with you on this, though i have to admit i have never looked at it like that before, i think he would not even get a major role if he were starting out today, i will look out for what you said if i can force myself to watch a few of his films

Check out his films by Howard Hawks - especially Rio Bravo. Wayne is rubbish, but it's great rubbish.

 

[Nanker Phelge]

You know what - I see the role being ascribed, but I never thought he filled it at all. Whenever I see him on screen I don't see an Eastwood or a Connery, I see a Roger Moore. In fact, worse than that.

I don't like John Wayne, but he had much more presence than Roger Moore, who was little more than a raised eyebrow and a haircut.

 

[Nanker Phelge]

I've just remembered how terrible he was in the Battle of Britain

and I LOVE films about the Battle of Britain

ha ha....he has done some shit, but I can't help loving him.

 

[pennimania]

great word! meaning - across the bridge?

yeah

but hardly one I expect to be popular here

learnt it many years ago when I was shagging an English teacher

and I mean MANY years ago

 

[inferno]

yeah

but hardly one I expect to be popular here

learnt it many years ago when I was shagging an English teacher

and I mean MANY years ago

Do you normally try to learn new words whilst having sex? I've heard of most sexual fantasies but not this one

 

[inferno]

he's great in sleuth, alfie, the man who would be king, kidnapped, the harry palmer films, zulu and the italian job. he's ace in the eagle has landed. quite like him a pissed literature professor in educating rita and he's brilliant in the fourth protocol and the quiet american.
can't quite believe you only took him seriously when he played a butler to a psychopath who dresses up as a bat.

 

[Johnny Canuck3]

Who do you think is the most overrated actor, I mean the ones that are classed as superstars.

I think Marlon Brando, he was great in A streetcar named desire, and in On the waterfront, both in the early fifties after that he lived on his reputation for the rest of his life.

Who would you nominate?

Brando is right up there, but I have to go with Julia Roberts.

 

[Badgers]

Nobody rates Tom Hanks as an actor surely? Apart from people who don't know what actors are.

He wasn't good in Philadelphia at all if you ask me, but he was, I have to say, effective in The Road To Perdition, because the character he plays is completely flat and barely a real person, and an actual actor might have accidentally emoted something convincing.

Pretty much my thoughts as I read the thread.
Tome Cruise is up there but has done some blindingly good films.

 

[Nanker Phelge]

Do you normally try to learn new words whilst having sex? I've heard of most sexual fantasies but not this one

I've invented a few new words while having sex.

 

[Johnny Canuck3]

Nobody rates Tom Hanks as an actor surely? Apart from people who don't know what actors are.

He wasn't good in Philadelphia at all if you ask me, but he was, I have to say, effective in The Road To Perdition, because the character he plays is completely flat and barely a real person, and an actual actor might have accidentally emoted something convincing.

I think a lot of actors are very good at some role, often in the beginning of their careers. Good actors can move on from that, and do well in other parts.

Tom Hanks was right for Big. After that, I think he was right in The Terminal. He's sucked or been average at most other things, imo.

 

[dylans]

Silvestor Stallone.

Charles Bronson.

Two of the most wooden, untalented, unconivincing "actors" to ever grace the screen.

 

[upsidedownwalrus]

Yeah, Copland, stallone's attempt to 'act', is fucking dire.

Arnie never even tried and made some stone cold classics along the way

 

[Dirty Martini]

John Fucking Malkovich. Ham.

 

[stupid dogbot]

he's great in sleuth, alfie, the man who would be king, kidnapped, the harry palmer films, zulu and the italian job. he's ace in the eagle has landed. quite like him a pissed literature professor in educating rita and he's brilliant in the fourth protocol and the quiet american.

Playing the same character, over and over and over and over again?

Pffft.

 

[upsidedownwalrus]

OU laughed at me about the Batman films, but I thought he was so apt for the part. Some of the lines might sound well cheesy if said by someone else, but when he said them they were pure poetry

 

[dlx1]

Marlon Brando - dead
Al Pacino - alive
Hugh Grant - alive
Caine - Jaws4

 

[stupid dogbot]

OU laughed at me about the Batman films, but I thought he was so apt for the part. Some of the lines might sound well cheesy if said by someone else, but when he said them they were pure poetry

Don't get me wrong, I do quite like Caine, but I don't think he's an outstanding character actor.

 

[Wookey]

Colin fucking Farrel. He's dreadful and keeps getting work?!

He's the dark matter of the acting world - he literally appears to me on screen like a great black hole, actually sucking up the acting talent that's around him, and dispensing with it to another dimension. He's a shadow man, a perverted negative of what acting should be, he takes woodeness to a spectacular new level, some form of hyperwood, no doubt. Woodier even than wood. And he is so painfully Irish, even when he's playing a potentially non-Irish character like Alexander, a recent misplanned foray of mine into this idiot's bumble-mittened attempts at pretending for cash. He just can't detach himself from reality and channel a fully formed character through his words and actions - or "act" - he has to look like someone left the fire escape door open on set and some passably cute but short delivery boy has just wandered in and taken over with all the brazen forthrightness of a tinker on a mission. Cease and desist.

 

[dlx1]

to add Jason Statham he had his moment in the sun time to go now.

 

[stupid dogbot]

to add Jason Statham he had his moment in the sun time to go now.

Yeah, he's shit.

We watched In the Name of the King a while back.

"Watch out, rude boy. I'm king, innit."

*snicker*

 

[mattie]

I'm sure someone would have said John Malkovich so I'll second/third/fourth it here.

Just dreadful.

 

[Kaka Tim]

Antony Hopkins - All technique no warmth. Ditto Tom Cruise.

Jim Carrey - running around the film manically gibbering, shouting and gurning like a kid whose had too much fizzy pop does not make a great performance - it means you are acting like a twat. 'look at me! look at me! Look at me!'

Robin Williams - similar criticism to the above really.

Clint Eastwood, Sean Connery and michael caine have great screen presence. Clint when he takes on the a bar full of would be adversieries at the end of Unforgiven -

"All right, I'm coming out. Any man I see out there, I'm gonna shoot him. Any sumbitch takes a shot at me, I'm not only gonna kill him, but I'm gonna kill his wife, all his friends, and burn his damn house down".

utterly convincing, utterly chilling and no one else could do it but Clint.

 

[Iguana]

Antony Hopkins - All technique no warmth.

Exactly. And absolutely no subtlety.