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Morris Dancing close to extinction

My cousin is a 'radical' morris dancer - they do crazy aggressive dangerous moves that the other 'sides' daren't do that sometimes result in injury. I wish I was joking.

That sounds like proper traditional morris dancing. There should always be a risk of serious injury or GBH.

The nice-nicey stuff is the modern, "radical" departure.
 
During my brief stint as a pagan (post goth, pre raver :rolleyes::D) I discovered the Rochester Sweeps festival which has shit loads of morris dancing - some of it is really quite full on!
 
Thats barn/square dancing. American rehash of traditional dancing.

If they were teaching you that as your tradition, I'd think of asking for the years back! :eek:


We didn't get any historical context to it. :D. Just used as a low impact in doors form of PE.

It was incipid, little embarrassing and lame. Slightly preferable to the weekly humiliation that was rounders.
 
tarannau>
Who's heritage is it anyway? Not mine for a fucking start.

I think that's a bit of a negative attitude. But fair enough if it isn't your cup of tea. However it is part of England cultural heritage, like it or not. I'm sure it ignores you as much as you dislike it though so I wouldn't worry ;).
Dance and music have been an integral part of nearly every culture on this planet and I think it would be sad to see a pass time like this vanish.

Besides, isn't there a train of thought that the focus on Morris dancing and other folk numbers as part of a 'proper' and widespread English cultural identity is a little false. IIRC some Victorian busybody wanted to catalogue and reteach these folk dances as it gave a fashionable English heritage and bespoke pastoral idyll. A fair few dances were either invented, overstated or plainly corrupted/faked for this nonce and his perverse 'educational' mission. And as much as they tried to breathe new life in these silly processions they failed miserably. Good.

Wow that sounds horribly bitter you know?
I presume this train of thought will be saying the same of native Canadian First Nation culture? I have to say the train of thought espoused is off the mark. What you are probably alluding to above is much what happend with Scottish culture during the 19thC when the idea of the "noble savage" became popular, and highland culture was re-written for the Victorian upper classes.
Sir Walter Scott was fairly pivotal in this romaticisation of Scottish culture. I'm sure areas of English culture experienced the same, even Morris dancing (I believe some of the discussion regarding fertility dances may have been the result of the Victorians) had been around for a long time before.

Crispy>
It's got roots in a Spanish sword dance, so it was never intended as a 'social' pastime, more a display or pageant. And it's no older than C15th.

I believe this (and the wiki article) to be incorrect. I spent some time discussing with a friend who is a Dr of English, and another chap who is an expert on dark ages through medieval life. Through the research one of them had done, they believed it actually went back to at least the late dark ages.

The Spanish idea came I believe because of the term "Moorish" however the research they discussed with me was that they believed the term to come from the old English phrase for Moor. Back then people carried a Moor pike which was a large stick used to help cross the peat bogs in the Moors. The idea was the dancing simply adopted the "Moor pike" as part of its routine and was then passed on down through history and adapted by each new generation.

Sword dancing also exists Northumberland and Scotland as well, not just Spain.

Long may it all continue, things like this make the world a little bit more of an interesting place, especially for folks who like to travel.
 
Funnily enough I was talking to my partner's uncle over Christmas. He's a Morris man and he was telling me that they've recently had loads of new recruits.

A pic I took of some Morris men in Swanage. The young son has apparently decided to end it all rather than join the Morris:


lol!!
 
Great post TomPaine!

I grew up with Morris Dancers always being at our village fate. One of them was my Chemistry Teacher.

I love all this stuff and it has begun to mean more since moving to Australia where I am daily reminded that I am English and will never be a true member of the Australian socity (am I bothered?:confused:)

I think it would be a massive shame if this died out. It IS a part of our culture wether people like it or not.

And yes to a Brixton Morris Dancers Union. That I would love to see :D
 
tarannau>


I think that's a bit of a negative attitude. But fair enough if it isn't your cup of tea. However it is part of England cultural heritage, like it or not. I'm sure it ignores you as much as you dislike it though so I wouldn't worry ;).
Dance and music have been an integral part of nearly every culture on this planet and I think it would be sad to see a pass time like this vanish.



Wow that sounds horribly bitter you know?
I presume this train of thought will be saying the same of native Canadian First Nation culture? I have to say the train of thought espoused is off the mark. What you are probably alluding to above is much what happend with Scottish culture during the 19thC when the idea of the "noble savage" became popular, and highland culture was re-written for the Victorian upper classes.
Sir Walter Scott was fairly pivotal in this romaticisation of Scottish culture. I'm sure areas of English culture experienced the same, even Morris dancing (I believe some of the discussion regarding fertility dances may have been the result of the Victorians) had been around for a long time before.

Crispy>


I believe this (and the wiki article) to be incorrect. I spent some time discussing with a friend who is a Dr of English, and another chap who is an expert on dark ages through medieval life. Through the research one of them had done, they believed it actually went back to at least the late dark ages.

The Spanish idea came I believe because of the term "Moorish" however the research they discussed with me was that they believed the term to come from the old English phrase for Moor. Back then people carried a Moor pike which was a large stick used to help cross the peat bogs in the Moors. The idea was the dancing simply adopted the "Moor pike" as part of its routine and was then passed on down through history and adapted by each new generation.

Sword dancing also exists Northumberland and Scotland as well, not just Spain.

Long may it all continue, things like this make the world a little bit more of an interesting place, especially for folks who like to travel.

Excellent post.
 
I had a friend who did a bit of morris dancing when he was younger and he fucking loved it.

This may have been related to the gargantuan amounts of alcohol they drank - injuries were quite common I believe.
 
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