More railways.. (model railway)

Discussion in 'transport' started by Mumbles274, Oct 11, 2009.

  1. beesonthewhatnow

    beesonthewhatnow going deaf for a living

    A couple of pics... The full frame has been taken apart for modifications apparently, this is a work in progress to try out a couple of ideas. So I'm told :D

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  2. beesonthewhatnow

    beesonthewhatnow going deaf for a living

    Also spied a bit of track at its very early stage...

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  3. beesonthewhatnow

    beesonthewhatnow going deaf for a living

    One thing that will never cease to amaze me is the tolerances that people working in P4 build to. It's insane :eek: :cool:
     
  4. Mumbles274

    Mumbles274 running from law and the press and the parents

    Yeah, wouldn't know where to begin!
     
  5. Mumbles274

    Mumbles274 running from law and the press and the parents

    Broke the airbrush out today to start painting some wagons :cool:

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  6. davesgcr

    davesgcr Reading books


    NIce Southern rolling stock - there , as vast quantities of best Welsh anthracite went to Kent for hop purposes , I see no reason why you cannot include a few "Evans and Bevan" or "Amalgamated Anthracite" to spice up your stock (assumng it is pre 1948 that is - if not tell me to shut up)
     
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  7. Mumbles274

    Mumbles274 running from law and the press and the parents

    This stock is all going to be pre '36. I think the area im modelling is a bit too far south and east from the hop areas of Kent though?
     
  8. davesgcr

    davesgcr Reading books

    Welsh coal went all over Kent for space heating - Sheppey / Canterbury / etc you name it. (vast quantities heated London County Council schools) - very efficient , high carbon and low arsenic. Not that I am obsessed at all.
     
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  9. teuchter

    teuchter je suis teuchter

    The little coupling-protector nosebags made me think of this from the real world

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  10. davesgcr

    davesgcr Reading books

    Plenty of units running around with this tonight and for the rest of the week. Sound operating , 20 years ago I was out spraying de-icer on couplings and doors on berthed stock in North London. Not just me either - got the whole management team out , on de-icing duties , including the on call manager to ride the 0445 empties Watford to Harrow. ....
     
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  11. Mumbles274

    Mumbles274 running from law and the press and the parents

    Excellent.. There is even a prototype for my masking method!
     
  12. Mumbles274

    Mumbles274 running from law and the press and the parents

    davesgcr i want to add a lamp to this brake van. I know it is a single lamp, bottom right for the line I'm modelling, but would it be above the buffer beam or back by the veranda? Do you know?

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  13. teuchter

    teuchter je suis teuchter

    Aren't those hooks on the uprights of the verandah there for tail lamps?
     
  14. Mumbles274

    Mumbles274 running from law and the press and the parents

    Yeah. But all lines on the Southern had specific placement for their lamps, whereas under BR for example the placement was about type of train, ie goods, express.
     
  15. Mumbles274

    Mumbles274 running from law and the press and the parents

  16. Puddy_Tat

    Puddy_Tat meh

    This says

    Brake vans carry three tail lights, one that shows a red aspect on the rear and one on each side that shows a red aspect to the rear and a white one forwards. By this simple means the driver of an unfitted freight could easily check that he still had the whole of his train behind him. If the white lights went missing - panic!

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    although it seems to have two additional lamp hooks either side of the sand box - these would not have been visible to the footplate crew though.

    although discussion here says that the third (lower) lamp was a BR thing not used in SR days.

    I have also found some reference to the idea that one of the two lamps would be changed to show white to the rear if the goods train was travelling on the goods / slow line on a 4 track railway (to make this clear to the driver of any train approaching from behind on the fast / main line)

    there's a few more things (one's a PDF from Farnham MRS) if you search brake van lamp positions

    yes but that's the front end...
     
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  17. Mumbles274

    Mumbles274 running from law and the press and the parents

    It gets more complicated aah!!! :D
     
  18. Puddy_Tat

    Puddy_Tat meh

  19. Mumbles274

    Mumbles274 running from law and the press and the parents

    Cheers Puddy_Tat. Have read those links and seems i need just the 2 lamps to the sides, as im making a small Southern branch line there is no need for the middle bottom one. That's the easy bit!

    The hard bit will be making a lamp with white and red LEDs facing fore and aft respectively. First tricky bit is being able to see the little buggers!!! I've got a bunch of different LEDs. The surface mounted ones on the right are a bit too large!

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  20. davesgcr

    davesgcr Reading books

    Wonderful when you can have a debate on brake van sidelights and tail lights. Very British shall we say.

    In my book you need only a trail lamp (not side lights) , if running a fully fitted freight - sidelights +tail lamp only when you have a loose coupled freight , or one with a fitted head. The sidelights ere indeed to allow the footplate crew to check that the train was properly following , and had not broken in half , a third or whatever.
     
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  21. teuchter

    teuchter je suis teuchter

    Doesn't sound like a very foolproof method!
     
  22. davesgcr

    davesgcr Reading books

    That is how it was from 1830 to about 1992 , just about saw the last of the unfitted freights around - trundling at 25 mph , ever so gingerly. Last ones were in / around the Tyneside area I think.

    Neither the old private companies , or the many private owner wagon owners , especially in the coal trade , believed in spending money on such things as power brakes.
     
  23. Mumbles274

    Mumbles274 running from law and the press and the parents

    If you're interested, I've been trying to make videos on a semi regular basis for my youtube channel. There is quite the community of youtube train nerds as you can imagine and I'm quite happy to be one! Waste half an hour of your life watching me build a bunch of wagons:





    and a painting update

     
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  24. Puddy_Tat

    Puddy_Tat meh

    there was slightly more to it than that - the guard would have been expected to apply the brakes in the brake van if he became aware the train had divided (and then go and put detonators down on the track a certain distance further back) before seeking assistance

    also, observation of the tail lamp by each signalman was very important - a signalman would not allow a following train in to his 'section' unless he was sure he had seen the tail lamp - and in fog, another member of staff would be at ground level to increase the chances of spotting the tail lamp.

    there were rules about what to do if an unfitted train became divided - stopping the front half of the train would not be a good idea if there was a chance the rear end was still on the move and heading in the same direction...
     
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  25. Mumbles274

    Mumbles274 running from law and the press and the parents

    Understatement of the year :D
     
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  26. spitfire

    spitfire Toast

    lol I'd forgotten I wrote that bit. :D

    Glad you're on the mend. Get that booth and mask set up!
     
  27. spitfire

    spitfire Toast

    From hospital thread for reference....

     
  28. Mumbles274

    Mumbles274 running from law and the press and the parents

    Docs were fairly certain it was the cause. will def be taking the right precautions from now if i even do use enamels again. just wasn't aware the risks from enamels were so severe and dangerous
     
  29. Mumbles274

    Mumbles274 running from law and the press and the parents

    I have painted the underframe and axles of a couple of 'The wagons that nearly killed me' :D

    I used a brush. I can confirm I am alive!!!

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  30. Puddy_Tat

    Puddy_Tat meh

    Have RAIB been notified?

    :p
     
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