More proof that "audiophiles" are fuckwits

[gentlegreen]

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I'm sure that is is a very nice player to listen to.

So long as you let it warm up. It takes quite a few hours - to be honest it's been powered up for years.

 

[Fictionist]

So long as you let it warm up. It takes quite a few hours - to be honest it's been powered up for years.

Ah, you are a member of the 'never turn it off' club!

You are a constant turn on.

 

[Meltingpot]

He's talking out of his arse. Mainly in an attempt to sell more turntables.

Anyone that thinks we don't have better kit available now than we did in the mid 70s is a complete and utter fuckwit.

"Vintage" sounds are just that. It's like comparing a 1970s 911 sportscar to one built today. Some people will say they prefer the original for whatever reason, but the modern one will be faster, more comfortable, more reliable and do less harm to the environment

You really think so? Reel to reel tape decks in the '70s could record onto 15 or even 30 ins. of tape per second. That's a LOT of information, and the best of them (like Revox) were very good indeed. And Rega sell CD players as well (like the Planet), so he's got no reason to try and talk CD down.

 

[beesonthewhatnow]

So long as you let it warm up. It takes quite a few hours

Unless it's full of valves this is bollocks as well. Simply not needed, and dosen't make one jot of difference to the sound.

 

[gentlegreen]

Unless it's full of valves this is bollocks as well. Simply not needed, and dosen't make one jot of difference to the sound.

Nope - I'm pretty ruthlessly cynical with these things - but you need to hear my Naim to know - valve amp warms up in minutes, speakers a bit longer, CD player sounded a bit nasty when I first heard it cold.

Funny thing hearing, took me a while to realise how gritty my 14 bit Philips was after living with it for 10 years.

You may need the clarity of electrostatics to hear it.

 

[beesonthewhatnow]

CD player sounded a bit nasty when I first heard it cold.

That's like saying a laptop shows you webpages a bit better when it's been on for a while.

Funny thing hearing, took me a while to realise how gritty my 14 bit Philips was after living with it for 10 years.

Early CD players sounded bloody awful, now they all sound the same.

 

[gentlegreen]

That's like saying a laptop shows you webpages a bit better when it's been on for a while.

I'll tell you what, I find adapting to LCD problematic - I miss my Mitsubishi - and I'm worried about when my Panasonic TV finally gives up the ghost ...

Nope - there are hundreds of semiconductor junctions with their various forms of noise, plus precision resistor networks and comparators in the D to A convertor - lots of quasi-linear bits to settle down - I wonder if they build-in temperature-controlled "ovens" into high-end kit like they do in communications equipment.

Early CD players sounded bloody awful, now they all sound the same.

They may do now, but I bought my Naim 10 years ago.

 

[WouldBe]

Nope - there are hundreds of semiconductor junctions with their various forms of noise, plus precision resistor networks and comparators in the D to A convertor - lots of quasi-linear bits to settle down - I wonder if they build-in temperature-controlled "ovens" into high-end kit like they do in communications equipment.

I was going to mention temperature drift.

 

[Meltingpot]

Nope - I'm pretty ruthlessly cynical with these things - but you need to hear my Naim to know - valve amp warms up in minutes, speakers a bit longer, CD player sounded a bit nasty when I first heard it cold.

Funny thing hearing, took me a while to realise how gritty my 14 bit Philips was after living with it for 10 years.

You may need the clarity of electrostatics to hear it.

I once heard Meatloaf's "Objects In the Rear View Mirror" on Radio 1, on a Naim system (NAT01 tuner). It literally brought tears to my eyes (Claire Sturgess didn't sound bad either). Too bad about the £1500 price (just for the tuner).

I've got one of these;

http://www.hi-fi-insight.com/193/quad-fm3-tuner.htm

It sounds great though not in the same league as the Naim, but it's a bugger to tune - there's no presets and you really have to wind the knob round to change station. Convenience has definitely improved over the years.

 

[teuchter]

Some more entertainment, passed to me thanks to the P.W.B. mailing list which I am on since signing up for the free sample of quantum mystic foil or whatever it was called:

http://positive-feedback.com/Issue38/cj_diary.htm

It includes reports of a magic christmas card:

the card had remained in a pile of unread mail after my mid-December return from a trip. I was listening to music one night when finally I opened it and, finding this handsome Christmas card from May Belt, set it aside for later perusal. But at the same time I noted an improvement in the system's sound and leaned back to enjoy, leaving the rest of the stack untouched. Only after the work concluded did I read the enclosed letter to learn that here was a bona fide Belt device! And that I had therefore not been (self-)conned into belief because I never knew it was there for a purpose.

 

[Fictionist]

Some more entertainment, passed to me thanks to the P.W.B. mailing list which I am on since signing up for the free sample of quantum mystic foil or whatever it was called:

http://positive-feedback.com/Issue38/cj_diary.htm

It includes reports of a magic christmas card:

May I ask what system you have?

 

[teuchter]

May I ask what system you have?

I've got Musical Fidelity pre-amp, power amp and CD player. The old X-series ones that are kind of a funny lozenge-shape. I mainly got them because I saw them in a Cash Converters for way less than they should have been so I know that I can sell them on at any point and make a profit. (Before that I had an old Audiolab amp, and before that I had one of those Class A Musical Fidelity amps that you could fry an egg on the top of).

I have a pair of 1970s KEF 105.2 speakers. The dalek ones. I like these a lot, partly because of the way they sound and partly because they look weird in a good way.

I also rather like old 1970s tuners so I have a Pioneer TX-9500 II although I have to admit I don't actually listen to it very often now, what with the internet and all.

Speaking of which, my computer is attached to the system via a Cambridge Audio DAC which I also bought in a Cash Converters for next to nothing...

 

[snadge]

Funny thing hearing, took me a while to realise how gritty my 14 bit Philips was after living with it for 10 years.

Even a non audiophile would know that.