More Holocaust Denial from .. Saudi

[butchersapron]

The distortion of history to fit it into current political requirements isn't a function of religion.

Sometimes it is.

 

[Idaho]

No, not really. It is usually a politcal trick.

 

[nino_savatte]

If you are expecting condemnaton from the likes of the Swaps you won't get it.

That is pretty disgusting really what is coming out of Saudi.

Can I take it that, when you refer to "Swaps", you're actually referring to those who don't embrace your wholehearted support for Israel?

 

[butchersapron]

No, not really. It is usually a politcal trick.

And of course, historically religion and politics have been completly seperate. Religion and politics are utterly intertwined in many places and are both are guilty of playing the game of historical falisification or tendentious revisionism. Even today - you only need think of the FRY and it's break up to see this in a modern european context.

 

[tim]

The distortion of history to fit it into current political requirements isn't a function of religion.

True, religion is all about the distortion of bizzare ancient myths to fit current political requirements

 

[tim]

he's the head of Islamic studies, he's speaking outside his area of expertise, he's no more credible than any common or garden nut-job like David Irving.

Since Irving is a nut-job "historian "of the third Reich andWW2 who has spent years searching the archives for anything to back up his fascist fantasies. This chap is considerably less credible.

 

[KeyboardJockey]

Can I take it that, when you refer to "Swaps", you're actually referring to those who don't embrace your wholehearted support for Israel?

Nah I'm a moderate where Israel is concerned. But when I refer to Swaps I mean the socialist workers party and their ilk and front groups who are justifiably loud when Israel does something wrong but worryingly silent or lower profile when one of their favoured dicatorships or movements is doing the wrong.

 

[Idaho]

And of course, historically religion and politics have been completly seperate. Religion and politics are utterly intertwined in many places and are both are guilty of playing the game of historical falisification or tendentious revisionism. Even today - you only need think of the FRY and it's break up to see this in a modern european context.

Religion can be a tool of politics. And religion can take the form of politics. But religion is also a distinct philosophical and cultural entity.

 

[Meltingpot]

what has relegion got to do woth this? this is power games between Saud, Iran and the US about resources and what you can get for them .. and the poor palestinians and jews are the fodder

Yes that's true.

 

[butchersapron]

Religion can be a tool of politics. And religion can take the form of politics. But religion is also a distinct philosophical and cultural entity.

Yes, and when it takes the concrete form of politics it often disorted 'history to fit it into current political requirements' - and still does in many places and situations.

 

[nino_savatte]

Nah I'm a moderate where Israel is concerned. But when I refer to Swaps I mean the socialist workers party and their ilk and front groups who are justifiably loud when Israel does something wrong but worryingly silent or lower profile when one of their favoured dicatorships or movements is doing the wrong.

Rubbish, anyone who doesn't support your 'moderate' position is treated to the usual accusations of being a "trot". You're no "moderate" on this issue either.

 

[laptop]

I think we should all take a "moderate" position on murder. It's quite naughty, but if it's done by the Right Sort of People everyone should just let bygones be bygones. And let them keep the house.

 

[rachamim18]

Typical of Arab Media. If you think that is bad you should see what our "Allies" Jordan and Egypt broadcast and publish.

 

[tangentlama]

Rubbish, anyone who doesn't support your 'moderate' position is treated to the usual accusations of being a "trot". You're no "moderate" on this issue either.

Agreed. I have read his contributions with interest and see him take a far-right wing stance. Going from what he has written, he stands to the right of Rachamim's viewpoint.

 

[frogwoman]

aye, compared to some people i know, rachamim looks like a member of hamas ...

 

[tangentlama]

aye, compared to some people i know, rachamim looks like a member of hamas ...

I am talking about Keyboard Jockey.

 

[ViolentPanda]

I am talking about Keyboard Jockey.

Converts do tend toward the "conservative" viewpoint, and on top of that, there ain't nothing as right-wing as a "reformed" leftist.

 

[tangentlama]

Converts do tend toward the "conservative" viewpoint, and on top of that, there ain't nothing as right-wing as a "reformed" leftist.

He is a convert? You will tell me he is wanting to live in Israel next.

 

[rachamim18]

Yeah, I left the Brotherhood back in the late 70s. Gotta' go back to Jew killing now so see ya.

 

[tangentlama]

Yeah, I left the Brotherhood back in the late 70s. Gotta' go back to Jew killing now so see ya.

We are talking about Keyboard Jockey.

 

[rachamim18]

Tanget: There was a 2 post exchange involving my name, one labeled me extremist while the other said I am not THAT extreme. My reply was just tounge in cheek but yes, I do recognise the bulk was about a third person. Thanks.