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MMA - Mixed Martial Arts (aka Ultimate Fighting)

Discussion in 'general sports' started by Bernie Gunther, Jan 14, 2010.

  1. Bonesy

    Bonesy 9"

    Taking the Gastelum fight at short notice I see... Not the best idea imo but shows that one thing Bisping doesn't lack is balls and the willingness to fight.
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  2. bromley

    bromley ...isn't as good as Lewisham.

    Over a year since the last Lightweight title fight...
  3. Bonesy

    Bonesy 9"

    Cracking finish by Gastleum. Horrible opponent for Bisping and his camp, he says his next fight will be his last. Hope he sticks to that.
  4. ice-is-forming

    ice-is-forming Its Hammock Time

    I've got $20 on Holly. Just because ...
  5. Virtual Blue

    Virtual Blue ready

  6. elbows

    elbows WoeTimer

    Since 'tainted supplements' are also a crap excuse used by deliberate cheats, its always good when tests can demonstrate a genuinely tainted supplement, and I dont blame him for suing them.

    Mind you at this point I feel that pro fighters should just try to avoid supplements altogether. It's not worth the risk and a lot of the 'rewards' from supplements are only psychological anyway.

    Overall I'm reasonably impressed with the USADA regime, body shapes in UFC have certainly changed notably in many instances in recent years. I'm sure stuff still goes on but at least there have been enough failures that the message is understood and people have to at least be less gratuitous about cheating.

    Weight-cutting/weight class issues still bother me a lot in terms of fighters health, a better system is needed. The latest high-profile example:

    Uriah Hall suffered ‘mini-seizure’ and ‘slight heart attack’ ahead of UFC St Louis

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  7. Virtual Blue

    Virtual Blue ready

    Yeah totally. Romero isn’t a Sonnen or Jones...the guy was honourable athlete before MMA. He’s a freak, doesn’t need it.
    The weight cutting part - I don’t understand why they don’t follow IBJFF/ADCC rules where fighters get weighed on the day. Would make more sense.

    I do wonder why it’s brought to attention now when such practices have existed in boxing for decades...

    Dana White questions Uriah Hall’s preparation, weight-cutting habits

    I was under impression Uriah Hall was a bit like Johny Hendricks - ie, doesn’t give a shit about diet, intake etc. Didn’t know he had a seizure. Jesus Christ...
  8. elbows

    elbows WoeTimer

    And here is an example of the opposite of that, when you find your crap excuses and dodgy evidence doesnt go well with USADA and your ban ends up increasing to 4 years!

    UFC bantamweight Francisco Rivera suspended four years by USADA

  9. elbows

    elbows WoeTimer

    I believe the reason that simple approach isnt taken is because fighters often dehydrate to meet weight, and the idea that being punched in the head when dehydrated is not good was taken into account heavily.

    Proper solutions to this stuff are probably a bit complicated - I know the changed the rules a year or two ago but arguably it hasnt helped there have been plenty of weight-cutting related weight issues since.

    One of the big underlying problems is that the weight-class you are in can make quite a competitive advantage or disadvantage. So the temptation to cut unhealthy amounts is always there, self-sustained by what a fighters peers are up to.
  10. tendril

    tendril And?

    Ngannou with the understatement of the year so far:

    "I think I underestimate him a little bit" :D

  11. Bonesy

    Bonesy 9"

    Brutal KO of Edgar by Ortiz, kid looked absolutely sensational. As well as his fighting style I like the serene energy he exudes, always seems in control, in and out of the cage. Could be a real force at 145, potential champion in my opinion.
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  12. elbows

    elbows WoeTimer

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