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Dillinger4
Es gibt Zeit
Congratulations Firky.
You have won at life.
You have won at life.
dolly's gal
killing things
oh i missed this, but well done firkles!
super-fantastic great! HUZZAH!!!!!!!!!!!!
super-fantastic great! HUZZAH!!!!!!!!!!!!
Still got the job then? 
skunkboy69
Reverend of Eternal Light
Congrats Firky.Hope it all goes well 
zenie
>^^<
firky said:Today I was giving ultrasound to trees for cavity akshally.
I'm looking on ebay for saftey gear because it is f'ing expensive. I wonder if mr.bishie has anything he wants to get rid of?
Why aren't your employers providing it dude?
Glad it went well, bet it was fuckin baltic!!
It is cold but it is hard work so you warm up quickly, besides I had my gortex leggings on and plenty of layers under my coat to keep my warm. So unless it is bitterly cold I am quite warm - could do with some proper boots though.
They won't supply my gear as I am contracted to them therefore have to supply my own stuff, if they employed me properly then they'd provide them. I am going on a chainsaw course on saturday so I am going to see if they ever sell of second hand jackets. I need a jacket, a pair of boots and a helmet. Already have the kecks
They won't supply my gear as I am contracted to them therefore have to supply my own stuff, if they employed me properly then they'd provide them. I am going on a chainsaw course on saturday so I am going to see if they ever sell of second hand jackets. I need a jacket, a pair of boots and a helmet. Already have the kecks
mentalchik
"I say we take off and nuke the site from orbit."
Dillinger4 said:
mentalchik
"I say we take off and nuke the site from orbit."
Congrats firks......bout bloody time too young man !
Herbsman.
Nah Lotion, Pet, Nor Powder.
Are you technically self-employed, Firky?zenie said:Why aren't your employers providing it dude?
Glad it went well, bet it was fuckin baltic!!
One of the benefits of getting people like Firky in (I take it he is technically self-employed) is that you don't have to give a shit about them, innit. Treat them like employees but don't give them any of the benefits...
firky said:They won't supply my gear as I am contracted to them therefore have to supply my own stuff, if they employed me properly then they'd provide them. I am going on a chainsaw course on saturday so I am going to see if they ever sell of second hand jackets. I need a jacket, a pair of boots and a helmet. Already have the kecks
Do you need a jacket? IME if you're just felling, snedding 'n' cross cutting a jacket's not needed, unless you're climbing and working in a tree with a top handled saw
_pH_ said:
I don't need one but I would like one after I googled chainsaw injuries. I do a lot of cross cutting and once I have finished my course next week I will be able to fell medium trees (30" IIRC). I hae stihl chaps and husqvarna gloves and hard hat, mesh / ear muffs (that was made three years ago so probably needs replaced).
_pH_ said:
Silvatest (sp?) I think, mostly seems to pick up natural hollows from what I saw.
I fancied doing being a ranger when I was a teenager; largely because I have always wanted a land rover defender and enjoy being outside. However my parents were never keen on the idea (middle class expectations) so I wasted my youth at college, university and dicking about.soulman said:
firky said:
You're doing CS 30, 32 and 36 then?
Medium trees is anything up to 1.5 x guide bar length IIRC. Plunge and sweep cut round the back, rather than straight felling cut
I've worked in arb/forestry for years and have never come across any fully trained professional who had a chainsaw injury (other than cut fingers caused by sharpening without wearing gloves
), it's the DIYers who tend to hurt themselves and make life more difficult for the rest of us 
by having to follow more stringent safety rules
_pH_ said:
You're doing CS 30, 32 and 36 then?
Medium trees is anything up to 1.5 x guide bar length IIRC. Plunge and sweep cut round the back, rather than straight felling cut
I've worked in arb/forestry for years and have never come across any fully trained professional who had a chainsaw injury (other than cut fingers caused by sharpening without wearing gloves
I have already cut myself on the chain but that was replacing the drive sprocket. I always wear gloves when I am sharpening the chain: getting quite quick at doing that now as I often have to do it several times a day when cross cutting wind fallen branches. Soil blunts it faster than anything!
Wish the skin on my hands was a bit tougher, it is still like tissue paper and I keep getting splinters.
_pH_ said:I think I know what you mean, it's like an Arborsonic.
No disrespect, but if you've only just started the job, are you the right person to be doing hazard assessment? Or is it for timber quality?
If it's hazard assessment, mention Poll v Bartholomew to your employer
Ha, no all I was doing was clearing the rhododendron from around the big trees whilst they checked them. I looked on over their shoulder and attatched the three boxes to the tree but that is all. I didn't do any of the assessing just dog work. It is for hazard assessment: in all high danger zones, near car parks and public footpaths.
What's the Poll vs Bart'? Case law?
Your skin will toughen up soon enough. It will probably all fall off after a few days of wet and dirt, then grow back tougher. I'd get 2 pairs of c/saw gloves if I were you, nothing worse than cold wet gloves in the morning 
Or get a saw with a heated handle
Poll v Bartholomew is a recent case where the plaintiff (Gary Poll) crashed his motorbike into a fallen tree owned by the defendants (Viscount and Viscountess Asquith of Morley); the defence rested on the fact that the trees had been subject to a 'drive-by' inspection by a general forestry worker. The judge agreed with both expert witnesses (Jeremy Barrell and Dealga O'Callaghan) that the bloke who did the inspection was not adequately competent to carry out the inspection; mention was made of level 1,2 & 3 levels of competence (in a general sense, not related to NVQs or anything). A properly competent inspector should have picked up on the dodgy architecture of the tree (multistemmed ash with included bark) and the presence of a fungal fruiting body; on this basis the judge awarded the case to the plaintiff.
Or get a saw with a heated handle Poll v Bartholomew is a recent case where the plaintiff (Gary Poll) crashed his motorbike into a fallen tree owned by the defendants (Viscount and Viscountess Asquith of Morley); the defence rested on the fact that the trees had been subject to a 'drive-by' inspection by a general forestry worker. The judge agreed with both expert witnesses (Jeremy Barrell and Dealga O'Callaghan) that the bloke who did the inspection was not adequately competent to carry out the inspection; mention was made of level 1,2 & 3 levels of competence (in a general sense, not related to NVQs or anything). A properly competent inspector should have picked up on the dodgy architecture of the tree (multistemmed ash with included bark) and the presence of a fungal fruiting body; on this basis the judge awarded the case to the plaintiff.
_pH_ said:
it maybe true but you really shouldn't say it.
or touch an Elder! I've trained loads of bods and worked with loads...and have seen plenty of digs and a lost thumb.
Worst one I didn't see was a father_son team taking a beech of a hedge in Tavistock...kick back in a wedged dig and spin..tree chair-benched and the 24" bar went between his legs, up his arse n balls... straight up him and out of one side of the ribs before he could let go off the trigger...
Best one...when i was climbing I was once replaced by a faster climber ...the kid cut his arm off the following day...his groundsman was too busy having a cup of tea with the client and the chipper was being fed by the scrub monkey...matey up the tree had to throw gore down on them to get attention as he couldn't lower himself...they got the arm back on though.
Stooopidist one was a guy I worked with had a sprained ankle, but couldn't afford not to work coz we were on pulp, turned up with one boot and one trainer on... one tree later snedding...he starts screaming....he used to take the piss out of me for having a roll of cling film in my cab...but he was fkkn grateful that day.
And the thumb was a deliberate attack in a tree by an irate Irish scab(when the French took over the pwoer down here they sacked 145 line workers and used companies from Manchester and Dublin to replace us)......the Cornish dood got 16K compo for it and a life job way leaving for Fountain Forstery.
...all ticketed because by an large we were working for NT, English Nature, Western Pwoer(SWEB) or The Duchy of Cornwall.
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