Discussion in 'world politics, current affairs and news' started by Biscuitician, Jul 20, 2016.
This the way we should be my Cannuck Brother:-
what i want to say? Thank you for the opportunity, by the way . As a woman, and former journalist (I did it for 14 years in London and had a career, now i am a press officer), like many journalists, I was originally drawn to do it because I truly and unequiviocally, believe in free speech and the freedom for any of our colleagues around the world to do that, freely, acerbically, caustically, and kindly - whatever they fancy without mercy. That is journalism.
If Milo wants to speak out on any subject, I tend to support his right. Like for example, early sexual awakening (which I experienced myself when i was 14 and there was nothing whatsoever paedophilic in his views once he clarified them, im glad people understood). You know there is an Urban rock and roll thread where i go into detail on my views of early sexualisation, by the way, Urbans keep up! I dont agree with everything Milo says but essentially he is expressing himself very much in the spirit of what Oscar Wilde talked about what - 125 years ago. True freedom of journalism being important. Nothing Milo says, offends me, or any woman i know, by the way (they all love him!)
If Milo were to quip Oscar Wildes words today, I wonder what people would say ' All women become like their mothers. That is their tragedy. No man does. That's his.'
milo vs clarkson - the ultimate trolldown
So do I; but freedom of speech does not carry with it the obligation for the listener to love, or even like, what is being said, nor to love or even like the speaker. In fact, it's possible to hate the speaker, and hate what they say - and still believe in free speech, and the right of the hated speaker to express their opinion.
Free speech is a two-way street. Milo may be free to speak his mind; but those who disagree with him, even those who hate him, are equally within their rights to respond - as you say - freely, acerbically, caustically, - whatever they fancy. [and that extends even to those of us who aren't journalists].
If some U75ers find Milo hateful, or hate what he says, they are free to say so as they choose, and it's a bit surprising to see you as a journalist attempting to shame them because they've spoken their minds on this subject.
They are free to say what they want -there tends to be a very one-sided, po-faced collective opinion on Urban about characters like him: very suspicious, easily offended, gunning for his (metaphorical) blood , baffled by satire- which is all oh so very very predictable.
You blueshirt clown.
No need to thank me, the opportunity was always there.
you think Yiannopolous is a satirist?
Nah. He is a mischief maker.
i'm not sure 14 is a particularly early sexual awakening tbh. certainly not early enough to be unusual, and from chatting to people when i was younger most people had 'sexual awakenings' if not sex around 12 onwards.
"As a woman .." I think you are talking out of your arse, a pretentious self aggrandising torrent of nonsense.
Great that all the women you know love him though, they must be so sophisticated. Is it his journalistic work at breitbart that they find thrilling ?
He's a fascist. It's fascist mischief he makes y'know.
What is it that makes all the women you know love him?
wouldnt you love to know.
Yes. But you're not telling, which is mean. How am I to learn from you and your enlightened friends ?
yeh but are you seeing a pattern here - icke - milo?
It's the celeb bit she likes. I wonder why she isn't standing up for Katie Hopkins?
At least Katie Hopkins hasn't embarked on a US wide lecture tour with the intention of publicly naming hundreds of undocumented people - names farmed and provided to him by far-right racist and openly fascist groups - in order that they and their families are arrested, detained and then deported - ruining their lives in the process. Unlike Cheesy's cheeky little mischief maker.
Don't give her any ideas!
That would have a brilliant pay-off if she did - utter humiliation.
Now there is an insult I have never heard before
You're less funny in the morning
have you called him a genius yet?
What? No star jumps?
Such a joker. You should be less po faced - Lighten up.
Public humiliation and harassment of a trans student...Lighten up, just a little mischief.
Instigating the racist trolling of a Black actress...Lighten up, just a little mischief.
Threatening to name undocumented students...Lighten up, just a little mischief.
'Feminisim is a cancer' ...Lighten up, just a little mischief.
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