According to the Graun, citing a parliamentary report which references a claim by Surfers Against Sewage, out of 38.5 million plastic milk bottles used each day some 15m aren't recycled. I boggle slightly at that. There are some 60-odd million people including kids, do we really use a bottle each on two out of every three days and then lob nearly half of them onto a beach, into a hedge or landfill, at a rate of 100m a week, half a billion a year? Seems extraordinary, why don't we see abandoned milk bottles everywhere we look? Anyway, the article moves on to the virtues of selling milk in FSC certified cardboard cartons, which use 80% less plastic than bottles. Poking around, this looks like the packaging, showing paperboard (only optionally FSC certified despite the spin) with sugar cane based plastics made in Brazil. Is this a good idea? Are there enough forests to completely replace plastic bottles with cartons? Is it fair to presume the proportion that aren't recycled won't change much, so so we'll be knee deep in cartons instead of bottles? Too many questions, anyone got any views?