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'Midlands and the North', or Mercia and Northumbria?

Discussion in 'Midlands and the North' started by kebabking, Jan 18, 2018.

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rename the forum?

  1. Mercia and Northumbria

    4 vote(s)
    28.6%
  2. Mercia and the North

    1 vote(s)
    7.1%
  3. Midlands and Northumbria

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  4. Stay the same

    6 vote(s)
    42.9%
  5. Summat else..

    3 vote(s)
    21.4%
  1. kebabking

    kebabking Unfettered ambition

    name change?

    'the Midlands' is a shit term, its not really the name of a place, it only describes it in relation to other places - which is crap. not being a proper Northerner, though having lived in the North several times and very happily, i'm not really qualified to say whether 'the North' is a good term, so i'll defer to the Northern folk.

    poll.
     
  2. Pickman's model

    Pickman's model amid a crowd of stars

    the northern souls
     
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  3. cheesethief

    cheesethief Active Member

    A: Where is 'Mercia'? :confused:
    B: That'll be the Midlands...
     
  4. Magnus McGinty

    Magnus McGinty Wh♂️

    Mercia ran right down to London and Northumbria contained Eastern Scotland.
    I think it’s fine as is.
     
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  5. StoneRoad

    StoneRoad RIP Greebo being kinder heckling from the back!

    Does the "Northumbria" include what is now the Lake District and the Border Reivers area ?
     
  6. lazythursday

    lazythursday Well-Known Member

    I think 'the north' is a pretty good term and northumbria just seems a bit too twee for the modern north. I totally understand if our downtrodden midlands brethren wish to reclaim the term Mercia though, it does have a much nicer ring to it.
     
  7. Magnus McGinty

    Magnus McGinty Wh♂️

    Yes. And part of Scotland...
     
  8. kebabking

    kebabking Unfettered ambition

    i assumed it would be the old, litteral meaning - the land north of the Humber - rather than the modern county.
     
  9. cybershot

    cybershot Well-Known Member

    'The North' is basically anything above the M25 these days isn't it to the London 'yoof'
     
  10. chilango

    chilango *shrugs*

    No.

    Much of Cumbria (Yr Hen Ogledd, Rheged, Strathcylde whatever) wasn't part of Northumbria and only joined a unified England later iirc.
     
  11. weepiper

    weepiper Jock under the bed

    250px-Kingdom_of_Northumbria_in_AD_802.jpg
    c800AD.
     
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  12. danny la rouge

    danny la rouge This is definitely the darkest timeline

    It depends on which dates you want to use as the template, but perhaps the English and Welsh forums could be rearranged thusly:

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    The Danelaw forum would cover the north and east (including London), and Alfred's Kingdom would include much of the south west, excluding those areas where the Britons were not under Alfred's rule. It would be up to those remaining areas to decide which forum to join or form their own.

    *runs*
     
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  13. Magnus McGinty

    Magnus McGinty Wh♂️

    The ‘modern county’ is called Northumberland not Northumbria.
     
  14. Vintage Paw

    Vintage Paw dead stare and computer glare

    I like 'The Midlands.' It sounds kind of naff. It's apt.
     
  15. DotCommunist

    DotCommunist my world is fire and blood

    I like the Danelaw myself. We'd probably still be drinking foaming ale from horns and bullying churls if it wasn't for edward the elder :(
     
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  16. DotCommunist

    DotCommunist my world is fire and blood

    depending on where in anglia/midlands/danelaw I've lived depends which sets of 'local news' and 'regional programming' I get. This used to be more novelty when there was more regional variance rather than the homogeneous bland gruel we call modern local news.
     
  17. Shirl

    Shirl Brexit my arse

    Yorkshire and surroundings :)
     
  18. Tom A

    Tom A Goat among sheep

    The People's Republic of Northumbromercia.
     
  19. LynnDoyleCooper

    LynnDoyleCooper It's a complicated world innit.

    First thing I thought when I saw the name of this sub-forum was 'fucking typical Londoners lumping the Midlands and the north together.' :mad:

    Surely the north should have its own sub-forum, then the Midlands can just be ignored.

    I'm a southerner by birth (and lived there most of my life) btw, although have defected to Yorkshire and couldn't be paid enough to go back.:thumbs:
     
  20. friedaweed

    friedaweed Sitting down for a wee

    I've been campaigning for this for years.

    They've even got a separate forum for some Sunday league team they all follow :rolleyes::facepalm:
     
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  21. farmerbarleymow

    farmerbarleymow daft apeth

    North should have it's own forum. What Midlanders choose to get up to is their business.

    Don't be daft - we don't want to be accentuating the negative aspects of the North like by focusing on Yorkieshire. :(

    It'd be better as the 'The North (grudgingly including Yorkshire, but only because we can't get rid of them)' :p
     
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  22. moochedit

    moochedit Mr Mooched It

    Either Midlands or Mercia is fine just don't lump us in with the north or south :mad:
     
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  23. moochedit

    moochedit Mr Mooched It

    So does "the north" and "the south".:confused:
     
  24. farmerbarleymow

    farmerbarleymow daft apeth

    The 'inbetweenies'; 'neither one or t'others'; 'sandwich fillers'; etc. :thumbs:
     
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  25. mx wcfc

    mx wcfc Well-Known Member

    I have a client with "Mercia" in its name. I was talking about them to someone and actually said "Mercia are in, er, Mercia" Comes from reading too much AS history. And I don't think Northumbria ever had much sway over the lake district, But like someone said above, it depends when, precisely you are talking about. London was a Mercian town right into Alfred's reign, albeit Mercia was generally under Wessex control in later times. And most of Berkshire was a Mercian possession for many years in the mid Saxon period.

    Edward the Elder did a lot to sort things out, but it was Athelstan who finally made England England.
     
  26. JimW

    JimW 支那暗杀团

    Elmet by moonlight.
     
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  27. Kaka Tim

    Kaka Tim Crush the Saboteurs!

    Greater Yorkshire.
     
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  28. moose

    moose like some cat from Japan

    Surely Yorkshire should have its own forum, so they can witter on about gods-own-biggest-baps-teabags-baht'at, out of sight and out of mind.
     
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  29. farmerbarleymow

    farmerbarleymow daft apeth

    We should emulate Trump and fortify the border while we're at it, to keep them safely contained.
     
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