Microsoft Vista
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Sunray
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beesonthewhatnow said:That's the sort of shit I hate anyway, I couldn't give a fuck what the OS looks like really, I just want it to do a job without fuss. I don't even bother with a wallpaper picture most of the time
I use my PC to to a job all day and I'd like to look at something nice rather than this toy town XP look and feel, which gets worse the less fussy you make it. Vista looks so much more professional and work like and nice. Its calmer and less agressive styling is great for the senses I feel. Esp with my lovely deep green babbling brook for a desktop.
Its irritating because with all these 'features', I can't recommend a move to Vista at work.
Sunray
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MikeMcc said:
No its easier. Without any shadow of a doubt, Vista has an much improved interface for Windows. Whats your not prepared to do is to get your head around the new interface which is a lot easier.
I was using NT 3.51 the other day and that is a piece of shit, as is NT4 and even Windows 2000, XP makes it at least 1/2 useable but Vista actually makes it near the winning line for useability and it looks great to boot.
Shame its so badly flawed.
E2a: Installing the RC1 of SP1 now will see how it goes.
kained&able
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might as well ask here
Is anyone ever havigng problems with some of the upgrades?
I can never get the security for .net and update for windows live toolbar to download and install. Is there a way to it it manually and are they of any real importence?
dave
Is anyone ever havigng problems with some of the upgrades?
I can never get the security for .net and update for windows live toolbar to download and install. Is there a way to it it manually and are they of any real importence?
dave
ChrisFilter
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What a pain in the arse... SP1 has been ok for me, got a few blue screens but after I updated wifi drivers it's been fine.
Sunray
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I have a issue with my PC as a whole at the moment, I think either my PSU or one of my hard disks is slightly faulty. Vista turns hard disks off after 20min of idle. When it the disk powers up, I sometimes get blue screen. It might have been that. Sometimes I get a series of blue screens and then then it will settle down. Could be the ACPI going wrong.
Vista on my old PC was rock solid, so I am fairly sure its not Vista.
I might buy a new very high quality 600w PSU to ensure its not that.
Vista on my old PC was rock solid, so I am fairly sure its not Vista.
I might buy a new very high quality 600w PSU to ensure its not that.
Loads, but it is fine.
Main thing to remember about vista is that it is not XP. Don't try to make it XP and you will be fine.
It does mean you will have to learn some new stuff and unlearn some old, but IMO, after 3 weeks of using and developing on it, it is better than XP.
Mail I sent to the guys a few weeks back:
First with the bad.
XXX is a bit so so on it. Works fine, takes ages to load. Looks bland. Works fine though.
XXXX works fine too once you have done some tweaking to the registry....
Now to the good.
1. Much much more secure
2. Bitlocking on drives (entire drive encryption, only slows things marginally.)
3. Virtual drives as a part of the OS rather than hacking under the OS
4. Easier to integrate your own apps rather than having to use MS apps
5. App search tool, which is really good
6. User structure under root is long overdue but well delivered.
7. hibernate is nice, much better than in xp
If you are moving on to vista be aware that you need good specs, dont believe a badge that says vista ready. >128 video definite, >2gig ram if building . I have 2 gig ram on this machine and its about half the speed of XP when building, though it runs the XXX at about the same. Maybe this is a dual core issue with XP?
Some nice little tools in vista though.
Main thing to remember about vista is that it is not XP. Don't try to make it XP and you will be fine.
It does mean you will have to learn some new stuff and unlearn some old, but IMO, after 3 weeks of using and developing on it, it is better than XP.
Mail I sent to the guys a few weeks back:
First with the bad.
XXX is a bit so so on it. Works fine, takes ages to load. Looks bland. Works fine though.
XXXX works fine too once you have done some tweaking to the registry....
Now to the good.
1. Much much more secure
2. Bitlocking on drives (entire drive encryption, only slows things marginally.)
3. Virtual drives as a part of the OS rather than hacking under the OS
4. Easier to integrate your own apps rather than having to use MS apps
5. App search tool, which is really good
6. User structure under root is long overdue but well delivered.
7. hibernate is nice, much better than in xp
If you are moving on to vista be aware that you need good specs, dont believe a badge that says vista ready. >128 video definite, >2gig ram if building . I have 2 gig ram on this machine and its about half the speed of XP when building, though it runs the XXX at about the same. Maybe this is a dual core issue with XP?
Some nice little tools in vista though.
skunkboy69
Reverend of Eternal Light
No probs at all with mine.It's running faster and gained FPS on games.Friends of mine have said they've had trouble but their computers are underpowered and it's as simple as that.
Gmart
Well-Known Member
OH! so my Intel pentium processor 1.86GHz, 1.0 GB RAM, ATI MOBILITY RADEON X300 is probably not good enough and I should stay with xp??
skunkboy69
Reverend of Eternal Light
I wouldn't put it on a pc with only 1 gig
kained&able
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what he said.
alsoknownas
some bloke
Is it advisable to do a dual-boot machine with Vista *and* XP? or not? 
The main thing I want to avoid is DRM (Vista), the main thing I want to access is Games for Windows (Vista).
The main thing I want to avoid is DRM (Vista), the main thing I want to access is Games for Windows (Vista).
skunkboy69
Reverend of Eternal Light
Don't quote me on this but I'm sure you have to install Vista first.
Sunray
Its sunny somewhere.
Is it advisable to do a dual-boot machine with Vista *and* XP? or not?
The main thing I want to avoid is DRM (Vista), the main thing I want to access is Games for Windows (Vista).
Can only install XP 1st because Vista has an entirely new boot manager and process which will boot xp fine, but if you install XP 2nd it will over write it and Vista will not boot any more.
You could just install Virtual PC (free) from Microsoft and use that? Saves a lot of hassle.
toblerone3
Grrrrr
I've got Vista preinstalled with my laptop, but DRM Vista sounds nasty.
What problems would it cause and how could I uninstall it?
What problems would it cause and how could I uninstall it?
ChrisFilter
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DRM is built into all editions of Vista, there's no such thing as DRM Vista.
if you want to dual boot xp and vista it is fine to install xp after vista.
once you've done that just boot with the vista cd and get it to repair the installation.
it will boot back into vista then install the small freeware app easyBCD
run easybcd and add the xp to your boot list.
I've used it to add linux and mac for
a quad-boot on my lappy.
once you've done that just boot with the vista cd and get it to repair the installation.
it will boot back into vista then install the small freeware app easyBCD
run easybcd and add the xp to your boot list.
I've used it to add linux and mac for
a quad-boot on my lappy.
Sunray
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That depends on you only having one active partition, if you have more than one and the one with Vista is on a drive with a higher ID then this will not work. Flaw with Vista is that it expects to be on the only active partition.
dogmatique
merde alors
I've been using Vista for over a year and haven't noticed any DRM issues. But then I don't have any DRM infected files, never use WMP, and wouldn't buy anything that's DRM crippled.
ChrisFilter
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Quite.
Sunray
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I just changed my motherboard and this is the 1st NT OS that survives that without nearly instantly blue screening.
Booted. Unresponsive for about 10 minutes, then the mouse and keyboard started working so I can log in. Reinstalled a few drivers here and there and now it seems just about fine.
Windows ME was the last OS that Microsoft produced that changing the motherboard didn't cause a blue screen.
Booted. Unresponsive for about 10 minutes, then the mouse and keyboard started working so I can log in. Reinstalled a few drivers here and there and now it seems just about fine.
Windows ME was the last OS that Microsoft produced that changing the motherboard didn't cause a blue screen.
stdPikachu
Plughole in bathtub curve
I did this a couple of weeks ago with my XP machine, going from an Athlon X2/nForce4 to a C2Q/P35. Didn't even have to remove the nVidia drivers or install the Intel ones first.
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