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I dunno... from a digital marketing pov, the tipping point between alienating a section of the audience and being able to 'googlise' animation is probably not as cautious as you might think.

My first thought about Crispy's post as well - being able to search index animation will make a big difference to a lot of webiste developers and designers.
 
Just trying to make some sense of it from msoft's material. So silverlight stuff is actually output as XAML? This reads more like an SVG-killer than a flash-killer, much as they try to deny it.

Is XAML open or proprietary? They seem a bit cagey, obv WPF's microsoft's own.

I should think success or failure will depend on how heavily tied in it is on the server side rather than client.
 
I haven't got the time or inclination to reply to all of the stuff here, but I would like to make the distinction between two types of programmer. In my book, there's trained programmers, and there's informal programmers. The first type will either have studied computer science or programming for the sake of it, whereas the informal programmers program to make programs to assist in their job/to get a job done. The first type might use one type of programming language, the second might use another.

For the first type, Java and Eclipse may be a popular environment choice.

For the second type, VB and QBASIC/QuickBASIC are/were popular choices.


the snobby code jockey is getting all precious... ignore it...

A "snobby code jockey" saying that BASIC was good given the context???? But nah, you're not going to get a rise out of me :)
 
Back to the OP, version 2.0 of silverlight already looks like it's going to be one of those things that gets bloated to bursting point.
 
I haven't got the time or inclination to reply to all of the stuff here, but I would like to make the distinction between two types of programmer. In my book, there's trained programmers, and there's informal programmers. The first type will either have studied computer science or programming for the sake of it, whereas the informal programmers program to make programs to assist in their job/to get a job done. The first type might use one type of programming language, the second might use another.

Very simplistic : This ignores the "trained programmers" who use VB (and others) and rapid prototyping tools... And the "informal programmers" who use Java, Eclipse, etc, to program quickly because they have structured environments...
 
My first thought about Crispy's post as well - being able to search index animation will make a big difference to a lot of webiste developers and designers.

you can do it now in flash if you spend some time coding up plain text and xml out files for it. though quite how you get DDA compliant descriptions for animation is still escaping most people at present.

you also have to look at the intent of the site and it's audience most flash sites aren't too worried about the DDA or any form of social compliance. and to be fair this isn't going to change with sliverlight.

It also throws up a huge amount of problems in both formats just as tv progrmas and their audio descriptions aren't 100% fool proof can you imagine trying to explain say happy tree friends or one of those zoomify woooo arrrrrhhhh here's the brand abstracts at the start of a Promo site all they'd hear in audio description is:-

a moving circle going clockwise, now moving anti clock wise a rombus comes in from the left and is repeated from the right and then top and bottom of the screen the brand name is floating in looking like riding white rabbits which morph into the compans log and products and then fade out like mist...

the word BRAND appears on the screen.

Click to enter...

so for that reason alone they aren't great to navigate.

if there's added xml/xsl output included via the action script and then refference the appropreate plain text files then it's as compatible and DDA friendly as any other site... it's just that takes time and effort which most people can't be bothered to do.
 
can you imagine trying to explain say happy tree friends

The scene is a green space with some trees, characters cuddles the rabbit, giigles the chipmunk and handy the beaver walk onto screen. Handy starts wiring a treehouse. Cuddles and Giggles enter the tree house and turn on the light. Giigles is electrocuted into a fried crispy chipmunk. Cuddles cries and walks outside to where Handy is turning on a woodchipper, cuddles falls into the wood chipper, blood and entraisl fly over the screen, handy attempts to resuce cuddles and looses an arm, as more blood and entrails cover the screen. The end.
 
Ive installed this Silverlight thing - I cant remember what happened, but somewhere, somehow my computer asked me to.

It also asked me if i wanted the new vista-like instant searching function (which requires Silverlight) - it means you can do a search and it comes up straight away. (on XP)

THing is my ocmputer now runs slower, plus its always trying to index files for the occasioanl search you might do. Ive tweaked it to make it less interfering, but its still a drag.

Anyone know how to uninstall the search thing? Im worried if I uninstall silverlight (which I can do) it may not uninstall the search thing and then Ill be shtuck.
 
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