True. I was disputing isitme's claim that London wasn't "English" rather than a more technical debate about what, precisely, consitutes "London", though...
Michel Platini: This man can save English football
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True. I was disputing isitme's claim that London wasn't "English" rather than a more technical debate about what, precisely, consitutes "London", though...
revol68
what, fucking what?
Platini is a lil fuckwit with a sideline in reactionary populism, the footballing worlds Bonaparte.
His nationalist bleatings about a lack of English players and his pseudo populism about endebted rich clubs ring a bit hollow when you consider non of these seemed to be much of an issue when it involved the Spanish or Italian footballing giants. Where was the whinging when Serie A was dominating Europe and was attracting the finest players from all over the world, what about Real Madrid being bailed out by the Spanish tax payer, or AC Milan and their big money spending media mogul/Prime Minister, not to mention the whore of Turin raised with the silver spoon of FIAT in it's mouth.
The death of national football is nothing I'll grieve over if it ever came to pass. It certainly is no alternative to the rootless money dominated cosmopolitism of clubs, how many of the big nations have gained from their past imperialist histories? Where would France be if it wasn't for it's former colonies?
I also didn't understand why Platini singled out Wenger for attack, for everything that can be said about Wenger (or rather about what he never sees) he does embue his teams with a philosophy of playing proper football, infact the one shortcoming his teams have had is a lack of instrumentalism. It would seem Wenger's rejection of national quotas is what pisses off Platini and on that front I side with Wenger.
His nationalist bleatings about a lack of English players and his pseudo populism about endebted rich clubs ring a bit hollow when you consider non of these seemed to be much of an issue when it involved the Spanish or Italian footballing giants. Where was the whinging when Serie A was dominating Europe and was attracting the finest players from all over the world, what about Real Madrid being bailed out by the Spanish tax payer, or AC Milan and their big money spending media mogul/Prime Minister, not to mention the whore of Turin raised with the silver spoon of FIAT in it's mouth.
The death of national football is nothing I'll grieve over if it ever came to pass. It certainly is no alternative to the rootless money dominated cosmopolitism of clubs, how many of the big nations have gained from their past imperialist histories? Where would France be if it wasn't for it's former colonies?
I also didn't understand why Platini singled out Wenger for attack, for everything that can be said about Wenger (or rather about what he never sees) he does embue his teams with a philosophy of playing proper football, infact the one shortcoming his teams have had is a lack of instrumentalism. It would seem Wenger's rejection of national quotas is what pisses off Platini and on that front I side with Wenger.
Ich bin ein Mod
does his make up in his room
To be fair to him, he wasn't head of UEFA back then
revol68
what, fucking what?
Yeah but him and Septic Bladder never seem to have much to say about the italian and spanish giants, least not Real Madrid who rose to sucess on the back of the Francoist state and have been bailed out by the Spanish state numerous times. There was little outrage about the Italian match fixing scandals and AC Milan went on to win the Champions League they should have been banned from, nor any mention of financing of AC Milan, Juventus, or Inter Milan.
Christ I've no love for England but English clubs and fans are held to a higher standard by UEFA than other countries, whether over their 'buying' of success, their dodgy finances or their crowds behaviours. The attitude towards the rise of English clubs is one that reeks of Aristocratic reaction, a bitter jealousy to the power of the new 'noveaux riche'.
