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Michael Owen

owen is still a good striker but has lost a bit of pace which was always his biggest asset.

i reckon i would perfer defoe in my team over owen these days.


dave
 
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This could be in The S** tomorrow - QPR and Man Utd want Owen.

Reckon he'll be at Spurs next season.
 
I bet playing in the J-League helped that a lot :D

His goal to game ratio would be slightly better if he'd retired rather than gone to Grampus 8. 8 goals in 23 games was the worst goal to game rtaio he had at any club and worse than his international ratio.

The only other two clubs he had where he had a less than 2:1 ratio where Leicester where he started and Barcelona were he was often used as a winger.
 
is he not also the only proffesional ever to have never been given a yellow card?

No, I mena for a start there's loads of players who've only played a couple of first-class football matches before being released by their clubs
 
Nah, that was Roy Race.

Not true. I have a recently-published compilation of two years' worth of Roy Of The Rovers stories and he gets booked at least once.

Ref: A professional foul, Roy. You know I can't ignore it!

Crowd: He's been cautioned. Roy Race has been booked!

[Roy grits his teeth while Carford City player clutches shin in agony]

Ah, those were the days. :D
 
To be honest, he was at his best when he stayed in the 6 yard box for 90 minutes. :)

He wasn't actually a terrible winger, he was a very pacey player in his prime.

Whaty made him great is the same thing that made Shearer and Owen great, the pure love of scoring; not caring whetehr the goal's a thirty yard screamer or scrambled in form 2 yards.
 
Best England centre forward ever would be quite a good poll. Dean, Mortensen, Lofthouse, Greaves, Lineker, Shearer, Owen, we've produced some good ones over the years.
 
Am I being stupid to ask who that might be? I did a decade-by-decade mindmap and they were who I came up with (oddly I couldn't think of one for the 70s).

Are you serious??

bobby_charlton449.jpg
 
Wikipedia said:
Honours

International
World Cup: 1966
European Championship Third Place 1968
British Championship Winner 1958 (shared), 1959 (shared), 1960 (shared), 1961, 1964 (shared), 1965, 1966, 1968, 1969, 1970 (shared)

Club
The Football League Champion 1957, 1965, 1967
FA Cup Winner 1963
European Cup Winner 1968
FA Community Shield 1956, 1957, 1965, 1967

Individual
European Player of the Year: winner: 1966; 2nd: 1967, 1968

1966 World Cup: winner

Football Writers' Association Footballer of the Year: winner: 1966

BBC Sports Personality of the Year Lifetime Achievement Award: 2008

+ the England goal record with 49 goals


whats more

he played for Man U
 
Are you serious??

bobby_charlton449.jpg

He wasn't a centre forward though, more a goal scoring centre midfielder, i.e. like Gerrard or Lampard but not shite at international level. I totally agree that he has an awesome record; to be ahead of all-time great poachers like Lineker and Greaves is incredible. However, I was thinking specifically of centre forwards, also leaving out Tom Finney because as I understand it he more played at outside right/left, despite being at joint-sixth in the scoring charts.
 
He wasn't a centre forward though, more a goal scoring centre midfielder, i.e. like Gerrard or Lampard but not shite at international level. I totally agree that he has an awesome record; to be ahead of all-time great poachers like Lineker and Greaves is incredible. However, I was thinking specifically of centre forwards, also leaving out Tom Finney because as I understand it he more played at outside right/left, despite being at joint-sixth in the scoring charts.

back then they played 2-3-5 and he was number 8, inside right




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The 66 team were known as the wingless-wonders though, playing Hurst and Hunt up front with Peters and Charlton attacking in front of Styles and Ball, with a flat back four. I think it was thought of as quite innovative then.

And with Manchester United, Dennis Law would've always been the centre forward.
 
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