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Michael Moore Rips CNN on Iraq/Healthcare

JoePolitix said:
British anti-Americanism is a pile of shite. Like the old aristocrats who look down on the nuevo rich.

It's always been there, you can see it in novels from many years ago. It is just snobbery really, we're clever and have got history, you're dumb and new. Something like that.

Incidentally i'm british and for 25 years i've been ranting and raving about america and her war crimes and crimes against humanity. What i hate about my country is how much it lines itself up with the US over foreign policy. Which is policy to kill in order to gain more wealth.

We are historically born killers, and we just passed the baton to the US. Both are guilty of appalling crimes.

Has britain got a michael moore? Pity if it hasn't. Both countries need many more of them. I could say most of what moore says, but no-one's gonna wheel me out on cnn. He gets airtime. Whoever owns the language has the power. Or whoever gets to speak the language has the power.
 
Detroit City said:
there has got to be at least one tall, fat and scruffy guy in all the UK.

Wot, who's on the telly like? Admonishing the shameful criminal leaders we have? But now you've got me thinking, about the bbc. I thought being politically correct was a byword for society nowadays, but all the presenters are of 'normal' build. That seems to deny half the population getting a job on the telly...
 
fela fan said:
Wot, who's on the telly like? Admonishing the shameful criminal leaders we have? But now you've got me thinking, about the bbc. I thought being politically correct was a byword for society nowadays, but all the presenters are of 'normal' build. That seems to deny half the population getting a job on the telly...
try more like 95% cause they have to be good looking and of the right age also
 
Detroit City said:
try more like 95% cause they have to be good looking and of the right age also

So it seems those in (visual) media are exempt from politically correct requirements!

They also have to speak with a certain voice. Shut your eyes when listening to a bbc news reader, and they all become the same. Cloned representatives of the establishment...
 
fela fan said:
When someone is being hit from left and right, you know they've done something good!
Don't tell me - like the BBC, right ? Or rather, like the BBC like to tell us, time and time again: “We’ve been criticised from all sides, so we must be doing something right. Chuckle, chuckle”

What it means in reality is that one side of the debate is genuinely offended at the bias, and the other side feigns offence to protect the ground its gained. Pragmatism, realpolitik, whatever you want to call it - it’s what professional political strategists do to hoodwink dumb fuck BBC journo’s and, through them, the public.
 
London_Calling said:
Not too many given it went (on both occasions) to Belgium :confused:

I think you understood the point, that the citizens of a country often keep track of how many of their soldiers are killed, but not of the numbers killed by their soldiers.
 
London_Calling said:
Don't tell me - like the BBC, right ? Or rather, like the BBC like to tell us, time and time again: “We’ve been criticised from all sides, so we must be doing something right. Chuckle, chuckle”

What it means in reality is that one side of the debate is genuinely offended at the bias, and the other side feigns offence to protect the ground its gained. Pragmatism, realpolitik, whatever you want to call it - it’s what professional political strategists do to hoodwink dumb fuck BBC journo’s and, through them, the public.

You won't find me defending the bbc, just cannot be trusted. I'm amazed to hear that they proactively say they are doing things right. They're just a tool.

My point, not so well made, was that when everyone, from all persuasions (not just left and right) hits on someone, then it's well worth listening to what that person has to say.
 
London_Calling said:
Example: Moore is presented with the age-old slogan of ‘socialised medicine’ and can’t even kick that into touch.


I can just see him doing what you'd like and answering "OK, fuck it, you cunts, let's call it 'communist medicine' - like we have communist fire departments" :D


'course he'd get blanked at "fu"....
 
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