MI6 officer named by Greek newspaper

[laptop]

used to be the D(A)-notice committee had a website:
http://web.archive.org/web/20050305113503/http://www.dnotice.org.uk/

but now you get:

http://www.dnotice.org.uk/
"Forbidden
You don't have permission to access / on this server."

which I thought was good...

Mmmh. Interesting. The MoD still owns the domain name, though...

But while looking for alternatives I got a lovely announcement:

No such domain gov.uk

Typical. The revolution happens and they hush it up



No new D-Notices per se have been issued for decades. In fact some have been withdrawn - including highly specific warnings against revealing details of Soviet defectors.

Instead, selected editors are encouraged to contact the Admiral for "advice".
(For some reason it alway seemed to be an Admiral who was Chair of the Committee - until RAF bod Andrew Vallance in Dec 2004.)

The media convention has always been that the D-Notice/Defence Advisory system is a warning that going against the Admiral's advice would make prosecution under the Official Secrets Act rather likely; but also that when the government tries to prosecute journalists under the Official Secrets Act it ends up with egg on its face.

There has also been a belief that reporting that things have been reported overseas is less dangerous than original reporting in the UK. For example, when the Spies for Peace uncovered the system of post-nuclear-attack government in 1963, the UK papers sat on the information and waited to report the dreadful security breaches by papers in Belgrade.

This clearly isn't working in the case of the alleged Athens head spook, though.

 

[fela fan]

That was expected, too. Well done fela fan!

Exactly the kind of lost-cock remark I'd expect from you!

Well, here's another one man. Happy new year to you, this is just a stupid website, and now that i'm reading this on a new day, a glorious day, my post about you seems preposterous to me now. Indeed, i'd actually like to take it back if i can.

Anyway, that's the way ma brain is workin now...

 

[cemertyone]

stephen saunders was not replaced by langman.

military/defence attaches are generally commissioned officers, i believe (as saunders was); langman is recorded as simply a counsellor.

....

Cheers for clearing that up....i guess Mr Saunders has gone to the big Sandhurst in the sky ....maybe he and Earl Mountbatten can toast each other in for the new year....

 

[nutopia]

Nicholas Langman

Contact details? Kind of car he drives, reg plate, etc. ?

Does he have wife, kids. Which schools, etc.?


Cheers.

 

[nutopia]

The Greek newspaper To Proto Thema has named Nicholas Langman as being responsible for the illegal interrogation and torture of 28 Pakistanis in Greece.

Where are his immediate ancestors buried for instance? Gets you thinking.

 

[Bob_the_lost]

Where are his immediate ancestors buried for instance? Gets you thinking.

Well you chose a good user name looking at those two posts. ETB 2 days.

 

[cemertyone]

Contact details? Kind of car he drives, reg plate, etc. ?

Does he have wife, kids. Which schools, etc.?


Cheers.

Actually all that information is available and its not to hard to find if you trawl through the right shit....why dont you ....oh say lets start with the electoral role for the area slightly outside banbury........do you think you might find his name and address there..............i`m not saying you might...but i think you will......if iv`e done my home work right...if not then

 

[DaveCinzano]

Contact details? Kind of car he drives, reg plate, etc. ?

Does he have wife, kids. Which schools, etc.?


Cheers.

what a shit post. twat.

 

[DaveCinzano]

Actually all that information is available and its not to hard to find if you trawl through the right shit....why dont you ....oh say lets start with the electoral role for the area slightly outside banbury........do you think you might find his name and address there..............i`m not saying you might...but i think you will......if iv`e done my home work right...if not then

don't you start. this is a bulletin board, not a quiet conversation with your mates down the pub. engage brain once in a while.

 

[Kid_Eternity]

You're in a good mood tonight B KRS

 

[DaveCinzano]

You're in a good mood tonight B KRS

i'm always in a good mood

besides, if no one else can be arsed to pull up the most basic of foolishness, then it falls on the mr grumpies of the world

 

[Kid_Eternity]

i'm always in a good mood

besides, if no one else can be arsed to pull up the most basic of foolishness, then it falls on the mr grumpies of the world

*backs away slowly*

 

[Pilgrim]

Oh I love it, Pilgrim - I'm dragging irrelevant issues out here, am I?

What the fuck does any of this have to do with thetrollinggang.com?

Please, remind me where on this thread I have dragged up anything to do with your precious self?

Pilgrim?

Pillock, if memory serves.

Keep out of shit that doesn't concern you, and don't bring the trollinggang into this, otherwise you'd be the one shitstirring.

You're a shitstirring little toady, pk.

And a troublemaker as well.

I've got no time for the likes of you, never have.

 

[Kid_Eternity]

I've got no time for the likes of you, never have.

Then why reply to his posts?

 

[nutopia]

i'm always in a good mood

Alls well on the minibus

 

[Tooter]

life really is too short.....if i ever find myself getting abusive and over opinionated towards people i dont know then i hope someone tells me...

regarding the story, whoever this chap is no doubt he'll have been given a new identity and relocated somewhere safe. its hard to find good loyal torturers nowadays....

 

[Binkie]

The Morning Star had this story on its front page on Saturday. I can see why terror suspects need to be questioned, but I can't see why it should be kept secret.

 

[pk]

You're a shitstirring little toady, pk.

And a troublemaker as well.

I've got no time for the likes of you, never have.

Says Pilgrim, determined to carry on the row...



Who are you anyway, Grimpillock, yet another sad old shitstirrer??

I don't ever recall seeing you before.

I'd just like an apology from Rednblack for saying he'd laugh if my kids were dead... then we can all move on.

 

[Pilgrim]

Says Pilgrim, determined to carry on the row...



Who are you anyway, Grimpillock, yet another sad old shitstirrer??

I don't ever recall seeing you before.

I'd just like an apology from Rednblack for saying he'd laugh if my kids were dead... then we can all move on.

So, I'm determined to carry on a row, yet you are the one who decides to revive this particular spat days after I had moved on.

And I've been around a while, as you are well aware from our previous encounter regarding the other place.

And, if memory serves, it's not considered polite to muck about with other people's usernames.

Finally, a couple of questions that even your rather limited mental processes should be able to handle:

Have you actually read the thread?

Do you have anything intelligent to add on the subject of DA Notices and MI6 agents allegedly being involved in torture?

If not, kindly fuck off and leave the subject to those who know something about it. Ta.

 

[FridgeMagnet]

Oh for heaven's sake.

N.B. U75 is not as yet subject to a D-notice and given that they're voluntary would not be affected in any case. We try to avoid repeating any sort of libel, but this is not that as far as I'm aware.

 

[editor]

Of course it's OK, the information is already out there on the 'net!

Why don't you post it on your site, then?

 

[Pilgrim]

Why don't you post it on your site, then?

If memory serves, people are concerned about the possible sanctions of any DA Notice. Although the information is now in the public domain, it needs to be spread across as wide a cross-section of media as possible.

It's already being posted and reposted on a number of sites as far as I know.

 

[editor]

If memory serves, people are concerned about the possible sanctions of any DA Notice. Although the information is now in the public domain, it needs to be spread across as wide a cross-section of media as possible.

It's already being posted and reposted on a number of sites as far as I know.

But you can understand why I might not be wanting the potential hassle of people posting it here yes?

 

[Pilgrim]

But you can understand why I might not be wanting the potential hassle of people posting it here yes?

To be fair, yes I can. You're worried about any possible consequences for the site and those running it, and that's fair enough.

I doubt very much that the powers-that-be will have wanted this business out in the public domain.

That said, there's little or nothing they can do about it now.

The brave souls at the Morning Star, who apparently recieved a DA Notice and ignored it, are far more likely to suffer any consequences than you are.

I do appreciate your concern, though.

 

[nutopia]

But you can understand why I might not be wanting the potential hassle of people posting it here yes?

You are an arm of the Inteligence Services here to provide a sink for lefties, gather intelligence, keep an eye out. This is my best guess.

 

[Binkie]

You are an arm of the Inteligence Services here to provide a sink for lefties, gather intelligence, keep an eye out. This is my best guess.

Feasible. But I doubt whether anyone who's really a threat to the status quo would post here. Apart from me.

 

[nutopia]

Some Title

Feasible. But I doubt whether anyone who's really a threat to the status quo would post here. Apart from me.

That'll stop them spying on their own then.

 

[bristol_citizen]

I see Private Eye (no link unfortunately) has openly named the officer in their latest issue along with a helpful explanation of D-notices.
Conspiracy theorists will no doubt be excited to learn that the officer was one of two MI6 personnel in Paris when Diana copped it.

 

[Leica]

Not only the name but also the photograph of the officer allegedly involved (taken during the Athens Marathon last year) is all over the papers in Greece. Part of the issue is about the legitimacy of British secret services undertaking such an operation on foreign territory.