Metaphysical

[max_freakout]

I want to see Max and Cannythingy get really locked into the "yeh, right, but what if the blue I see isn't the SAME as the blue you see.. yeh, have you thought about THAT?" debate

nothing is the same

what is 'the same' anyway? Very tricky concept to adequately define

 

[El Jefe]

nothing is the same

what is 'the same' anyway? Very tricky concept to adequately define

And we're off.

 

[El Jefe]

I am not reading this post. It might blow my mind.

You're just scared you might discover your inner Max.

 

[max_freakout]

You're just scared you might discover your inner Max.

aye everyone has an inner Max

those of us who havent yet discovered it, accepted it and become one with it, are just proto-max's

 

[El Jefe]

aye everyone has an inner Max

Not me. Soon as I discovered it, I had it gouged out with a broken whisky bottle and flushed down a shit-spattered public toilet.

 

[Dillinger4]

aye everyone has an inner Max

those of us who havent yet discovered it, accepted it and become one with it, are just proto-max's

But there is no inner max.

 

[max_freakout]

But there is no inner max.

inner max is a nothingness

 

[El Jefe]

inner max is an inner twat

Fixed

 

[Dillinger4]

inner max is a nothingness

yeh, so shut up.

 

[max_freakout]

im a closet-paedophile

 

[El Jefe]

You're a FUNNY guy, Max

 

[cannislupus]

Whats the relevant point is it cannot know it!

 

[Dillinger4]

Whats the relevant point is it cannot know it!

Whereof one cannot speak, thereof one must be silent.

Be quiet now, you have nothing to say.

 

[max_freakout]

Whats the relevant point is it cannot know it!

this doesnt sound gramatically correct, what do you mean by this?

 

[Dillinger4]

this doesnt sound gramatically correct, what do you mean by this?

he is saying "yes max, I have done drugs, now I have nothing comprehensible to say about anything"

 

[max_freakout]

he is saying "yes max, I have done drugs, now I have nothing comprehensible to say about anything"

i wasnt asking you

 

[Dillinger4]

i wasnt asking you

So? I was giving you the only answer that will make sense.

 

[max_freakout]

So? I was giving you the only answer that will make sense.

good point

 

[cannislupus]

this is a debate about knowing

This is about knowing: How could a reflection experience itself?

 

[Dillinger4]

Read a book.

 

[cannislupus]

What is the existence of a mirror?

 

[cannislupus]

What is the void and its conscience?

 

[Dillinger4]

Are you going to discuss any of your own thoughts, or just pose more questions?

Let me guess: lots more questions.

 

[max_freakout]

What is the existence of a mirror?

Ramesh Balsekar said that consciousness is the surface of a mirror, and all phenomena are merely reflections in that mirror, empty of inherrent existence

 

[cannislupus]

İs it subject or object? And could it ever have a refuge from itself as anything try run away from this indeterminable existence?

 

[Dillinger4]

What do YOU think?

 

[cannislupus]

mirror

I did ask about mirror's own existence without any reflections...

 

[Dillinger4]

Yeh, but what do you think?

 

[max_freakout]

İs it subject or object? And could it ever have a refuge from itself as anything try run away from this indeterminable existence?

according to Balsekar, phenomenality and noumenality are one and the same thing, there is no separation between them

and there is presumably no place to run away to, because there is nothing outside of everything, the mirror surface is all that exists

 

[cannislupus]

Maybe the mirror doesn't exist... But this just one way of finding an exit. Wondrous garden in a new dimension. And what do you think?