Met Police accused of waterboarding

[Azrael]

 

[Pickman's model]

a mixed film, if i recall, in which the high point of dixon getting what he deserved was marred by dirk bogarde getting caught.

 

[Azrael]

A resurrection!

 

[Pickman's model]

A resurrection!

like dixon's

 

[Azrael]

I doubt this thread will run for 21 years, but you never know.

 

[butchersapron]

Here's a good one

British Army 'waterboarded' suspects in 70s

Evidence that the British army subjected prisoners in Northern Ireland to waterboarding during interrogations in the 1970s is emerging after one of the alleged victims launched an appeal against his conviction for murder.

Liam Holden became the last person in the United Kingdom to be sentenced to hang after being convicted in 1973 of the murder of a soldier, largely on the basis of an unsigned confession. His death sentence was commuted to life imprisonment and he spent 17 years behind bars.

The jury did not believe Holden's insistence that he made the confession only because he had been held down by members of the Parachute Regiment, whom he says placed a towel over his face before pouring water from a bucket over his nose and mouth, giving him the impression that he was drowning.

But now the Criminal Cases Review Commission (CCRC) has referred Holden's case to the court of appeal in Belfast after unearthing new evidence, and because of doubts about "the admissibility and reliability" of his confession. The commission says it believes "there is a real possibility" his conviction will be quashed. After a preliminary hearing earlier this month, Holden's appeal was adjourned to the new year.

 

[Blagsta]

I'm not anti-police, but these allegations are fantastical post-PACE. Confessions extracted via the ancient art of water torture are about as likely to be entered into evidence as Sir Paul Stephenson is to visit an anarchist bookstore. Absent sadism, you just don't act like that. Either it's a pack of lies or the officers in question have gone stark staring bonkers. Real straightjacket bonkers.

You're faith in codes of practice is...touching.

 

[ViolentPanda]

Here's a good one

British Army 'waterboarded' suspects in 70s

Colour me utterly unsurprised about this.

 

[Rod Sleeves]

Colour me utterly unsurprised about this.

They did it in Cyprus and Aden as well.

 

[likesfish]

policeman acting like a complete lunatic how the fuck did he think he'd get away with that
in court why did you confess.
because he pushed my face in a bucket of water


not heard anything as stupid since the SIB (army cid well a stupid version of it)
tried to run a conspriacy to commit murder supergrass investigation.
highlights inculding the would be murderers having no car and the supergrass suddenly gaining access to a car

 

[Azrael]

You're faith in codes of practice is...touching.

Much like your faith in a radical restructuring of society.

I have no faith in PACE. So far as I know, there's strict rules banning the old "verbals", and the courts enforce them. If this isn't so, it isn't so.

 

[Blagsta]

you have no faith in something you were previously putting faith in. I see. Glad we cleared that up!

 

[Azrael]

I've never had faith in PACE. Faith is belief without evidence, or trust. (See, "society, radical restructuring of".) The evidence seemed to show that PACE stopped forced confessions. If it didn't, it didn't.

If it somehow brought you a little clarity, my good wishes.