Met Police 1-1 Dulwich Hamlet (Tue 20 Sep, 7.45pm)
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darryl
this wasn't supposed to happen
still beat you to the station ;-)
all to nah
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1-1
Bugpowder Dust
Well-Known Member
1-1, not one for the purist. Ref not great, Percil booted all over the park.
Teniola should have done better when he was clear through on the keeper, plenty of time to gather himself and pick his spot.
Referee had a rush of blood and sent off Tomlin when a warning would have sufficed and then gave them a penalty to equalise before we even had time to get a sub on
Carr had a great break when he came on but got injured I think, bit worrying.
Lucky break when ref chalked off their winner in injury time, need to see the highlights to check several of the dodgy calls he made.
Cheeky bit of skill from Carew when he was an inch away from lobbing the keeper from 35 yards with almost the last kick of the ball.
Weatherstone looked good at right back in place of Ming, who then came on for Green, another injury blow.
Oh, and the beer that tasted good last time was god awful this time round. Please no away trip to this place in the next round of the cup.
Teniola should have done better when he was clear through on the keeper, plenty of time to gather himself and pick his spot.
Referee had a rush of blood and sent off Tomlin when a warning would have sufficed and then gave them a penalty to equalise before we even had time to get a sub on
Carr had a great break when he came on but got injured I think, bit worrying.
Lucky break when ref chalked off their winner in injury time, need to see the highlights to check several of the dodgy calls he made.
Cheeky bit of skill from Carew when he was an inch away from lobbing the keeper from 35 yards with almost the last kick of the ball.
Weatherstone looked good at right back in place of Ming, who then came on for Green, another injury blow.
Oh, and the beer that tasted good last time was god awful this time round. Please no away trip to this place in the next round of the cup.
clog
she seems to like to nitpick and moan a lot
I think it's called playing your get out of jail free card....
Al Cunningham
Brockley Hamlet
I stood behind the bench second half. Complete chaos really. The 3 management team all shouting orders at same time , criticising the team and the officials constantly. Looks like everyone is feeling the pressure ......
Scutta
Live Fast Die Bizarre
Just like the Euro cup final they come to all the BIG games.
Sounds pretty dire atm. However 1-1 away at met police is not a scoreline I am surprised at seeing.
ForwardHamlet
Well-Known Member
Carr missed Saturday due to injury - heard him telling the physio he could jog in straight lines but any kind of turning/sprinting was a problem.
Aly Murty
Member
Whilst obviously that isn't ideal I think I'd be a lot more concerned if, in that situation, they were all sitting on their hands in the dugout looking clueless and beaten!
Scutta
Live Fast Die Bizarre
I think thats a bit extreme, considering we have still progressed each season under him. Unless we end up relegated, or nearly.
Although I dont disagree with "mediocrity and cluelessness" needs to be somehow addressed.
Lucy Fur
Well-Known Member
8 League games
2 Wins
4 Draws
2 Lost, and both of those at home.
Thems the facts without opinion.
Scutta
Live Fast Die Bizarre
There's always an opinion
As the graph above showed not too much difference from H&RB. Just a bit early for calling for the managers head thats all IMO.
Lucy Fur
Well-Known Member
I'm not calling for his head personally, but this has been a pretty poor start. Hopefully things will click, but the longer it goes on the more confident other teams are going to be that they can take points of us.There's always an opinion
As the graph above showed not too much difference from H&RB. Just a bit early for calling for the managers head thats all IMO.
tonysingh
Con Te Partiró
Bloody hell, you talk as if we're rock bottom and getting tubbed every week. We're not, we're inconsistent at the moment because Sir Gavin has changed the team around massively. They need time to gel.
Why don't we use the intervening time to moan?
Scutta
Live Fast Die Bizarre
I know you weren't
I cant disagree too much, but Gav is still young and learning himself, We just have to hope his percieved stubborn streak with players doesnt hinder this.
i agree!!Bloody hell, you talk as if we're rock bottom and getting tubbed every week. We're not, we're inconsistent at the moment because Sir Gavin has changed the team around massively. They need time to gel.
Why don't we use the intervening time to moan?
tonysingh
Con Te Partiró
I know you weren't
I cant disagree too much, but Gav is still young and learning himself, We just have to hope his percieved stubborn streak with players doesnt hinder this.
i agree!!
You agree with me? Suddenly I feel all dirty.
vornstyle76
Dundela FC, Transpontine Diaspora Brigade
My step-son came to this game, enjoyed himself very much in spite of the result and haunted military leisure facility ambiance.
I've always felt it isn't Dulwich's failures to get promoted that are the problem so much as the air of rationalised football that surrounds these attempts. The whole "most professional training in the semi-pro game" & "progressive play" type hubris. This reached an almost comedic peak last season.
We'd never have got promoted in 2012/13 without Erhun who was playing (at least) five tiers below his standard and was utterly committed. In fairness to Gavin, Erhun only came because of him, but it's starting to look like an unrepeatable one-off. A lot of Aspire's other League-bound "graduates" seem to be gravitating back to the same level as Dulwich.
I've always felt it isn't Dulwich's failures to get promoted that are the problem so much as the air of rationalised football that surrounds these attempts. The whole "most professional training in the semi-pro game" & "progressive play" type hubris. This reached an almost comedic peak last season.
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darryl
this wasn't supposed to happen
It's certainly the oddest football ground I've ever visited - from the back, the clubhouse looks just a police station, weirdly enough. At least the horses in the stables behind one of the goals don't usually get disturbed by much noise...
blueheaven
Well-Known Member
Personally I don't think we've progressed at all since Erhun left. I know there have been very small improvements in finishing positions, but on the whole each season has followed a very similar pattern: make wholesale changes to squad - look pretty good whilst never dominating the league - hit winter slump - manager loses faith in that season's players and we finish the season with a whimper. At the moment this season is looking like we're going straight to the slump phase which has to be a worry.
On paper I think this season's signings look impressive (Kargbo and Tomlin in particular), and we played some good football in pre-season, but I haven't seen any significant shift in approach from the management and my main worry remains the same as last season: Gavin is great at making strong signings, but questionable when it comes to getting the best out of those players. And this season he's already publicly criticised at least one individual player, which isn't good at all. And yet he apparently feels he's setting up the team as well as he can - something I'm sure a lot of us would question.
Eventually I think there has to come a time when we recognise that numerous good players are coming and going but the one constant factor in not getting the results is the management team. I would like to have seen more faith shown in players like Waldren last season, and more opportunities given to youngsters like Fernandes.
An increasingly big query for me is: with the manager being so deeply involved with the new stadium, and the academy, and apparently now the TV project - is he effectively unsackable, and is that a healthy sitution for the football team?
On paper I think this season's signings look impressive (Kargbo and Tomlin in particular), and we played some good football in pre-season, but I haven't seen any significant shift in approach from the management and my main worry remains the same as last season: Gavin is great at making strong signings, but questionable when it comes to getting the best out of those players. And this season he's already publicly criticised at least one individual player, which isn't good at all. And yet he apparently feels he's setting up the team as well as he can - something I'm sure a lot of us would question.
Eventually I think there has to come a time when we recognise that numerous good players are coming and going but the one constant factor in not getting the results is the management team. I would like to have seen more faith shown in players like Waldren last season, and more opportunities given to youngsters like Fernandes.
An increasingly big query for me is: with the manager being so deeply involved with the new stadium, and the academy, and apparently now the TV project - is he effectively unsackable, and is that a healthy sitution for the football team?
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SDE
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This is a very interesting conundrum. Firstly, I think it's far, far too early to consider getting rid. It would be a huge decision and you've got to give the current management team an awful lot of slack now for the wonderful efforts of preceding years, in my opinion. BUT... If we're half-way through the season and struggling in the bottom half of the table, then yes, it'll become a very serious question. Or, if we finish outside the play-offs. IF either of those things were to happen - and I don't think they will, but if they do - then the situation could arise. But (and here's the conundrum) it seems very difficult for anyone to actually make that call, given the current set-up of the club and its many fragmented segments. No disrespect to any one of the great people involved in the running of the club and all the wonderful work they do, but it does feel Gavin isn't actually answerable to anyone. For a club owner, who doesn't want the club long-term, to make such a decision, well, that would seem daft. Very happy to be corrected on all this - just a feeling / perception. And as stated, I hope and believe it won't come to this.
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