Mental Health Resistance Network - Protesting Cuts and Coercion

Discussion in 'protest, direct action and demos' started by MadeInBedlam, Nov 11, 2018.

  1. MadeInBedlam

    MadeInBedlam Arm the mentally ill

    I think @sleeper’s postion is very much not ‘shut and take yer meds’ tbh

    Correct me if I’m wrong sleeper, but you’re arguing that the enemy is psychiatry, and the goal ought to be getting rid of it?
     
  2. sleeper

    sleeper Unspecified

    Depends how you want to look at it

    Do I think immense suffering could very quickly be at least somewhat relieved for thousands of people with good psychiatry ---diet/allergies/modern treatments
    And that instead suffering is used for profit on an economic/societal advantaging point?

    This thread isn't about my experience though.
    - ending coercion - impossible

    -more funding insisting those types of drugs stay. (The ones that statistics show patients natural defence in the long term is crippled paving way for lifelong disorder with 'side effects'.
     
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  3. existentialist

    existentialist FiVe ᵈAʸs tᵒ FʳᵉeᵈOᵐ

    I am having real trouble making sense of what sleeper is saying, so it's quite possible I've got the wrong end of the stick.
     
  4. sleeper

    sleeper Unspecified

    Reform is important. It won't happen. Currently treatment mirrors something of a horrific drug addiction/drug empire

    Banging on pots and pans asking an end to forced treatment -thats just silly.
    A public inquiry/hard facts, why? You'll jeopardise public safety -
     
  5. MadeInBedlam

    MadeInBedlam Arm the mentally ill

    Much better to just moan about it on a message board then.
     
  6. existentialist

    existentialist FiVe ᵈAʸs tᵒ FʳᵉeᵈOᵐ

    I don't know what you mean.
     
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  7. sleeper

    sleeper Unspecified

    I agree

     
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  8. MadeInBedlam

    MadeInBedlam Arm the mentally ill

    What would you like to change sleeper , and what do you think needs to be done to achieve that?
     
  9. sleeper

    sleeper Unspecified

    MH professionals might dislike the pretence that treatment options over 70 years have changed. The often punishment prescription linked to pharmacy company share prices has the seal of approval from central government and ridiculation occurs when the sufferer requests appropriate treatment.

    In the same way fixed odd betting machines hoover money from certain people the madman acts to establish all those jobs/ medicines and 'security' to look after him.
     
  10. MadeInBedlam

    MadeInBedlam Arm the mentally ill

    So what do you want and what do you think needs to happen to get it?
     
  11. sleeper

    sleeper Unspecified

    I think basic allergy testing isn't good enough. Madness cannot be found.
    Even had I the cure for madness it would be extremely difficult to put forward.
    And I cannot say down with society and police, that's just silly.
    But, maybe again, it's not worth investigating urgently the stomach/heart role in mental disorder?
     
  12. TruXta

    TruXta tired

    What is the supposed role of the heart in MH conditions?
     
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  13. MadeInBedlam

    MadeInBedlam Arm the mentally ill

    Who’s saying down with society?
     
  14. sleeper

    sleeper Unspecified

    HRV has been getting not enough attention from patient perspective. And food, ha.

    Bundled into an ambulance escorted by police to a 'place of safety'. Doctors with medicines and tribunals to decide you. No, not down with society.
     
  15. MadeInBedlam

    MadeInBedlam Arm the mentally ill

  16. Edie

    Edie Well-Known Member

    What is HRV?
     
  17. sleeper

    sleeper Unspecified

    We are angry we are seething.

    More funding!

    What??

    (Arm the mentally ill)?

    MIB those people in Westminster are snakes wanting to protect their stronghold. That's it.
     
  18. sleeper

    sleeper Unspecified

    HRV. Some sort of irregularity of range between heart-beats which is commonly found in mad people.
     
  19. MadeInBedlam

    MadeInBedlam Arm the mentally ill

    Ok, what ought we (Mad people) to do then? Just feel powerless and do nothing?
     
  20. sleeper

    sleeper Unspecified

    Precisely
     
  21. sleeper

    sleeper Unspecified

    Any objection is a sign of your madness.

    Now hop on along and dwindle.
     
  22. MadeInBedlam

    MadeInBedlam Arm the mentally ill

  23. MadeInBedlam

    MadeInBedlam Arm the mentally ill

    Do you have any ideas on how mad-people can act to improve our lives? I’d be genuinely interested if you do.
     
  24. sleeper

    sleeper Unspecified

    Oh, what - you don't know?

    Annoy and haraunge the patient dig to the innermost sensitivities and a bit of lorazepam will result. The doctor is called. It's an emergency. Job done.
     
  25. MadeInBedlam

    MadeInBedlam Arm the mentally ill

    Right. So what do you think ought to be done about it?
     
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  26. sleeper

    sleeper Unspecified

    90% foreign staff
    2nd opinion doctors, gaga.
    Zombies from 'medicine'
    Upstairs experts who are never seen yet hold full time professional job. (Betrayal)
     
  27. Puddy_Tat

    Puddy_Tat meh

  28. sleeper

    sleeper Unspecified

    More funding!
     
  29. TruXta

    TruXta tired

    Honestly I'm struggling to follow what you are writing.
     
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  30. purenarcotic

    purenarcotic Conveniently Pocket Sized

    Good luck with this MiB, some excellent demands.
     
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