Meet the Anarchist Federation

Discussion in 'protest, direct action and demos' started by charlie mowbray, Nov 24, 2016.

  1. Anton

    Anton Banned Banned

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  2. Anton

    Anton Banned Banned

    not sayin all anarchists are a bunch of punx!
     
  3. Nigel

    Nigel For A Degenerates' Workers State

    Ah ok
    Seem to vaguely remember discussion at AF/ACF meeting with Workers' Solidarity Movement guy at Anarchist Bookfair on this a while back !
    Thanks
     
    Last edited: Dec 27, 2016
  4. Anton

    Anton Banned Banned



    its time for the Afed to move on to a more coherent and consistent ideology, Council Communism.
    Wasn't there a Council Communist influence on the Afed?
     
  5. Magnus McGinty

    Magnus McGinty IdProle

    He was an anarchist when, btw? Are you a thick cunt?

    I'm anarchist at my core (LibCom) but do feel the need to move away from all of the imagery surrounding it and the title, etc

    Just say pro working class. And look and sound like them a bit.
     
  6. Anton

    Anton Banned Banned

    you don't make much sense.

    according to the Afed:
    "The AFed give their view on Russell Brand, the comedian-turned-activist who opposes voting and calls himself anarchist in his new book, Revolution."

    So, is Russell Brand right then? - Anarchist Federation

    "So, genuinely angry at capitalism as he is, Brand is not qualified to be a spokesperson of the revolution. He will be using the royalties from ‘Revolution’ to set up a self-managed business for recovering addicts. But revolution has to be made by people oppressed by class, race, gender, sexuality, ability and lack of opportunity, all acting together"

    If he calls himself an Anarchist, then why is not an Anarchist? The Afed can't really say why Russell Brand is not an Anarchist apart from the fact he's got a bit of money and is sexist. the Afed are unable to distinguish their own politics from those of Russell Brand in any meaningful way.
     
  7. butchersapron

    butchersapron blood on the walls

    I' found some anarchist pamphlets and now i'm an anti-anarchists too!
     
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  8. butchersapron

    butchersapron blood on the walls

    Waste my fucking time. Child.
     
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  9. Magnus McGinty

    Magnus McGinty IdProle

    How does this make me revise my previous statement about you?
     
  10. brogdale

    brogdale Coming to terms with late onset Anarchism

    Have we had dog on a string yet?
     
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  11. Magnus McGinty

    Magnus McGinty IdProle

    Brand espoused some dogmatic cliches at some point which got some kids excited who were the target audience for the book he wanted to sell.

    And then hug the police and vote labour
     
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  12. Anton

    Anton Banned Banned

    you mean the dreadlocked crusties drinking scrumpy jack cider at ten in the morning who haven't showered for a few weeks with a skinny dog on a string?
     
  13. butchersapron

    butchersapron blood on the walls

    They don't care about you or your stuff. Be an actual anarchist. Talk to anarchists. Stop wasting my time.
     
  14. Anton

    Anton Banned Banned

    what makes you think i haven't?
    you are wasting your own time.
     
  15. brogdale

    brogdale Coming to terms with late onset Anarchism

    I see that I can teach you nothing.
     
  16. butchersapron

    butchersapron blood on the walls

    I don't care about you. The only way a consistent press/archive exists is through organised anarchists. That only exists by subs and dues.

    How do you think your well old pamphlet was produced?
     
  17. brogdale

    brogdale Coming to terms with late onset Anarchism

    Mebbe Anton believes Ordo Ad Chao?
     
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  18. butchersapron

    butchersapron blood on the walls

    Possibly. It's all very childish. So hard to tell.

    Hey anton - be an anarchist.

    How could we tell.

    I could tell by what the AF do. You, anton?

    How could we tell
     
  19. butchersapron

    butchersapron blood on the walls

    A moper who think thinks libcom oh god
     
  20. Anton

    Anton Banned Banned

    I don't understand the above comments.

    only joshing with the 'all anarchists are punx'. but seriously, i've been to enough Anarchist bookfairs, and it seems to me that the Afed and other anarchist groups have actually nothing to say that is actually relevant to real politics at the present moment.

    of course i know Russell Brand is a celebrity tosser, but the vacuousness of his views in some ways reflects the emptiness of many views that are put forward by many on, at least, the anarchist/libertarian circuit. i suspect that Russell Brand researched his 'rebel' persona by watching the people at Occupy etc, and copying their gestures, the kinds of things they say, their sentiments etc.

    . well meaning, but ultimately fluff.

    Afed do an important job in republishing texts and that is a good thing, no doubt.

    but the fact the Welsh Afed can put out a yuletide xmas picture of kropotkin as chav looter santa tells me something about their vision. it is lumpen proletariat, criminal, anarchist in the bad sense.

    as i admit i don't have the answer either, there's not much to do apart from posting piss taking punk memes on the afed threat.
     
  21. chilango

    chilango Neither Westminster nor Brussels....

    Anybody care to explain what's behind this odd series of posts?
     
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  22. brogdale

    brogdale Coming to terms with late onset Anarchism

    Years of refining the art.
     
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  23. Magnus McGinty

    Magnus McGinty IdProle

    Are you a member of the Labour Party?
    You're right up Brand's street if you are.
     
  24. Anton

    Anton Banned Banned

    no, i'm not.
    good luck to Corbyn tho, but I'm not a member.
     
  25. Magnus McGinty

    Magnus McGinty IdProle

    Why good luck to him?
     
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  26. Magnus McGinty

    Magnus McGinty IdProle

    All these anti-Stalinists and anti-Statists joining the Labour Party or doffing their cap and wishing him luck.
    It's more comical than anarchists having nose piercings.
     
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  27. Anton

    Anton Banned Banned

    i haven't joined the Labour party. I thought about it, and then thought nah...
    why good luck to Corbyn?
    why not? because there are no other realistic alternatives.
    what are we supposed to do? wait for the final 'collapse', which might never come?
    personally, I don't think Corbyn can win and even if he does, not much will change, but it may be a little better than now

    i came across a brilliant text on libcom, which you may have all read, but if you haven't perhaps you should:
    Militancy: highest stage of alienation - Organisation des Jeunes Travailleurs Révolutionnaires

    militancy: the highest stage of alienation
     
  28. Anton

    Anton Banned Banned

    in my opinion anarchists should start standing in elections. Class war did, altho they haven't had much success because they are really a bunch of punx with funny coloured hair and piercings.
    we need a new party of the left that is not authoritarian and marxism, nor infantile and anarchist, but both, authoritarian and infantile.
    or rather, libertarian and marxist, and that stands in elections, and has policies.
     
  29. Magnus McGinty

    Magnus McGinty IdProle

    Great. Knock up the constitution and statement of intent and maybe I'll join.

    Or do you want others to put in the ground work just for you to turn your nose up at it?
     
    Last edited: Dec 30, 2016
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  30. Magnus McGinty

    Magnus McGinty IdProle

    Btw, libertarian and Marxist aren't mutually exclusive.
     

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