Meadow ends contractual obligations for player payments and support of club finances

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  1. Bugpowder Dust

    Bugpowder Dust Well-Known Member

    Is there scope to get another groundshare in? Maybe Palace/Millwall/Chelsea would help us out by renting the ground for the rest of the season for their ladies / u21s? Would the club see any income in that case?
  2. Roger D

    Roger D Well-Known Member

    Depends on the terms of the lease. Probably better ask Kevin. Chelsea use Staines/Aldershot and what used to be Kingstonian already so probably not them.

    Kevin was prominent in Wimbledon Independent Supporters Association so should have a good knowledge of how Kingstonian ended up homeless and Chelsea ended up there instead.
  3. EDC

    EDC A Slightly Less Invisible Cyber Fan These Days

    Chelsea have bought Kingsmeadow for the ladies team.
  4. crocustim

    crocustim Well-Known Member

    Millwall ladies use the Fisher FC ground
  5. Dulwich Mishi

    Dulwich Mishi Old Skool Terrace Dinosaur-embracing the new-veau!

    It's Millwall Lionesses. Fisher are the primary tenants, and the ground is let to the Millwall Community Scheme thingy.
    I am also not sure if the fisher ground would meet Bostik Premier division standards, it is a very small, tight ground.
  6. Monkeygrinder's Organ

    Monkeygrinder's Organ Dodgy geezer swilling vapid lager

    I'm sure none of the other teams are going to rent the ground as a charitable act, that's a non-starter IMO. If they happen to be looking for somewhere that's another thing but I doubt they would be at this point in the season.
  7. YTC

    YTC Human Man

  8. PartisanDulwich

    PartisanDulwich Well-Known Member

    One of the few positives about our present crisis is the overwhelming level of Community support the Club is receiving, what ever happens,
    never let it be said in future years that Community support and solidarity is secondary

    at the moment it is key to the very survival of the Club
  9. Fingers

    Fingers From Tuscany SE22

  10. PartisanDulwich

    PartisanDulwich Well-Known Member

  11. PartisanDulwich

    PartisanDulwich Well-Known Member

  12. PartisanDulwich

    PartisanDulwich Well-Known Member

    Council Assembly Ordinary Meeting
    Wednesday 29 November 2017 7.00 pm
    Council Offices, 160 Tooley Street, London SE1 2QH5.

    MOTION FROM COUNCILLOR CATHERINE ROSE (Seconded by Councillor Sarah King)

    Support for Dulwich Hamlet Football Club (DHFC)

    1. Council assembly notes:
     The leader of the council, Councillor Peter John’s support for DHFC and his statement that “We are never going to let the club fail” is welcome support for the club.

     That Dulwich Hamlet has continuously occupied a site on the Green Dale site since 1902, first Freemans Field and finally settling on the adjacent plot its current location in 1931. This followed moving from sites in the Dulwich area; Woodwarde Road, College farm and Sunray Avenue. The 1931 Stadium was in use until 1991 until it fell into poor repair and foul of legislation that required football clubs to adopt modern safety standards.

     That the use of the site as a football stadium with its sporting facilities is a long established use and is one of the few remaining venues of those used in the 1948 London Olympics. The site, or an adjacent site, has been in continual use by the club since it moved to Green Dale and provides facilities for the local community, schools, charities and other professional football events.

     The significant contribution Dulwich Hamlet Football Club has made to the national, London and Southwark’s sporting, cultural and social history to modern football. Rooted in working class communities organising themselves at the end of the 19th century, as a means of enriching the lives of those that played for and supported these clubs. The club shares its late Victorian origins with the Herne Hill Velodrome that was recently granted planning permission to improve its stadium and make better use of its site.

    The DHFC hosted the amateur football games of the 1948 Summer Olympics on Green Dale in the identical way as the Veldrome hosted cycling events during the same Olympics. Dulwich Hamlet Football Club is meshed into the fabric of our borough and the hearts of fans since 1893, when founded by Pa Wilson. A club established on the key principles of “not just how we play the game… but how we improve the game”.

     That in the 20th century, club players lived up to the ideals of the amateur tradition; working gentlemen that contributed to their local communities and inspired others through loyalty, leadership, noble actions and sporting success. Men such as Charles Tyson, Hussein Hegazi, Edgar Kail, Reg Meritt, Tommy Jover and the current club President Jack Payne. This year, as we bid to become London Borough of Culture, these are true Southwark Pioneers.

     DHFC’s popularity with residents in the borough, with over 2,800 supporters attending matches and recent league success.

     That Gavin Rose, DHFC’s manager was recently awarded Isthmian League's Mitre Premier Division Manager of the month for October, and that award is recognition of not only recent league success, but of years of hard-work and effort that Gavin Rose, Junior Kadi, Kevin James and all the coaching and physio teams invest into both DHFC and Aspire Football Academy, week in week out.
    These men and women, together with the 32 7 current squad are the latest generation of dedicated of DHFC stars, who are forever pink and blue.

     That next year will be the Club’s 125th anniversary.

     That the Club’s contribution to the Isthmian League was recognised in both 2015 and 2017 through the award of the Barry East Trophy at the League’s Annual Awards Ceremony for the Club’s outstanding community work off the pitch.

     That the club received the accolade of “Football Foundation Community Club of the Year” at the National Game Awards last year. 2. Council assembly recognises:

     That since the relocation to the current stadium in 1991, the club has undertaken a number of attempts to improve its facilities, to build a more efficient building to manage, maintain and to use for sporting and community events.

     That the club has sought to improve the playing pitch to allow for greater use for playing and the community by replacing the grass pitch with a modern artificial, league compliant, playing surface.

     That the recent attempt to improve clubs facilities combined with a residential development undertaken by Meadow Residential LLP has stalled and as a consequence has put the financial future of the club at serious risk.

     That full disclosure of financial information to all those involved in the future of the club should happen as a matter of urgency to allow all stakeholders (Meadow, club owner, team management, club supporters, the council and any other interests that may be involved) to better understand the financial management and financial future of the club.

     That as a consequence of Meadow Residential LLP’s stalled proposals, that DHFC is now crowd funding for the management costs and players' wages.

    3. Council assembly resolves to:

     Thank the DHST and DHFC 12th Man, for their hard work, dedication and effort in supporting the DHFC Football Committee, including recent actions to meet management costs and players wages and to maintain the financial viability of the club.

     Commends and congratulates Gavin Rose, DHFC’s manager, on his recent award and the ongoing commitment given to young people in this community and beyond through the Aspire Academy.

     To call on the leader of the council to use best endeavours for the council to work with DHFC; to provide practical support for the remainder of this season if needed; allowing the club to plan for the longer term.

     To call on the leader of the council to use best endeavours for the Council to work with DHFC to ensure that the fans can be at the heart of determining its future.

     To call on the leader of the council to write to Meadow Residential LLP to discuss how they may continue to support the club with the payment of management costs and players wages until such time as the future of any current proposals become clear; that for all involved demand that a clear timetable with key milestones for any future proposals for the renewal of the club facilities, the residential development and any continued financial support be drafted. 33 8

     To stand with The Rabble. Forward the Hamlet. Note: If the motion is agreed, any proposals will be submitted to the cabinet for consideration.
  13. JackPittBrooke

    JackPittBrooke Active Member

    FYI I just got sent this:


    Tuesday 21st November 2017

    A Meadow spokesperson said:

    "Meadow are in discussion with the Council and we intend to bring forward a new planning application, which will deliver 35% affordable housing, a transformed stadium and much needed housing and community leisure facilities. If Southwark Council want to fund the Football Club, that is their choice, but if they really want to help, they could restore the club’s lease on the astroturf pitch."


    For what it's worth, to me this feels like a reaction to Southwark's pro-DHFC motion. If Meadow look like they're ticking all of Southwark's boxes, then they can put any failures down to Peter John's intransigence, and paint him as at odds with the rest of the council. Just my interpretation.
  14. blueheaven

    blueheaven Well-Known Member

    "A transformed stadium"... does that mean they've decided to attempt to renovate the current stadium instead of trying to build a new one on Greendale?

    Starting again with a completely new planning application could presumably mean this drags on for years. How does the club survive that? What's the point of transforming the stadium if the process kills the club that would play in it?
    jnrknight and editor like this.
  15. Pink Panther

    Pink Panther Well-Known Member

    Sounds very petulant to me, trying to blame the council for the current stalemate. I don't trust them an inch.
  16. Moroccan Sunset

    Moroccan Sunset Well-Known Member

    Agreed. It sounds like bad news to me. Rather than selling up quick and sneaking out via the back door, it sounds like they're entrenching themselves.

    I suppose if they scurried off quickly after all this publicity, it would make them look guilty. It's much better for brand Meadows if they're seen to 'negotiate' and insist that it's DHFC and the council that are being unreasonable. It's a worrying stance IMO.

    That said, it's interesting that Mr Rye has been unceremoniously fucked off. Perhaps they are genuinely attempting to negotiate rather than fart around with anymore 'structured dialogue'.
  17. Brix69

    Brix69 Well-Known Member

    Last edited: Nov 23, 2017
  18. PartisanDulwich

    PartisanDulwich Well-Known Member

    Interesting stats (if true)


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