McLeish wants Old Firm in Premiership
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Ich bin ein Mod
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proud_american isn't even a Celtic fan (I think)
I used to be in favour of Celtic joining the Premiership. Then again, I used to think tracksuits looked cool ...
I used to be in favour of Celtic joining the Premiership. Then again, I used to think tracksuits looked cool ...
Ich bin ein Mod
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tbaldwin said:
Care to explain why Celtic and Rangers should arbitrarily give up half their income? (not even going to start on the sectarian "debate", there's a thread in the scottish forum that goes into it far better than I ever could)
Donna Ferentes
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Because it's a more generous settlement than three-quarters.Ich bin ein Mod said:
pasy ohara
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as you all seem to slate the old firm with being sectarian, explain exactly the understanding of being sectarian. in glasgow some journalists say the song "fields of Athenrye" is sectarian, but liverpool sing it.. why no claims about it there. alot of people just point the finger and say "its sectarian", but alot is political. what i understand is only songs against religious groups is sectarian. so a lot of stuff has a geniune place at the games. as for the american going on about english hooligans, remember there a deaths after a lot of old firm games. how many people the casuals killed?
JTG said:
Awww JTG, thank you
Proud Yank
Anyway, cretinous? Yes, you are.
Read the article from a SCOTTISH paper from the Head of UEFA. Rangers are regularly in the top 20 of the most successful and money making financial clubs in Europe along with Newcastle.
Yet neither club has won a thing
Manchester United have 67,000 a week, the 2nd biggest transfer budget in England and they won fuck all.
Celtic or Rangers doing well in Scotland is a long ardous process. A few European wins mean little. Its 38 games a season against decent opposition (and Sunderland) and not 38 games against basically...crap
They should scrap the present seperate League Cups, and do a joint Hun-Jock one.
ernestolynch said:
But that still won't make most of the clubs take it seriously and then give the Scots a false sense of victory.
Anyway, do Celtic and Rangers take their own respective League Cups' seriously
on_the_fly
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If they were in the premiership they would get religated at the end of the season..simply not good enough to stay there.
Ich bin ein Mod
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Bollocks. We wouldn't win anything, btu we wouldn't be relegated. Plus, playing in the Premiership would allow us to attract a better quality of player also.on_the_fly said:
on_the_fly said:
what shit..so charlton,fulham,blackburn are better sides
than celtic?..
i think not
like has been mentioned above, I've no problem with the Old Firm transferring to the English league system.
As long as they start in the Northern Counties Second Division, or equivalent. Just like AFC Wimbledon and FC United have to do.
But if the English FA invites them to join by this method, do you really think they'll accept?
As long as they start in the Northern Counties Second Division, or equivalent. Just like AFC Wimbledon and FC United have to do.
But if the English FA invites them to join by this method, do you really think they'll accept?
Donna Ferentes
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How? By singing vile songs?
Donna Ferentes said:
of course,only the scots sing vile songs.
It's not going to happen as it is contrary to the interests of both the majority of English clubs plus the SFA establishment, who wouldn't want anything that would undermine the basis of a Scottish national squad. The celtic fans on here have been pretty realistic. I hope we don't hear the hypocricy of any old firm supporters bleating about an "uncompetitive" league when the unfair distribution of tv money etc has only contributed to their dominence.
All this stuff about celtic being one of the biggest teams in the world is extremely short sighted. I remember going to away games at Parkhead in the late 80s where there were maybe 17,000 fans in the ground.
All this stuff about celtic being one of the biggest teams in the world is extremely short sighted. I remember going to away games at Parkhead in the late 80s where there were maybe 17,000 fans in the ground.
proud_american said:
Why do you think we have a problem with Scottish fans per se?
I am friends with and have met many fine supporters of Montrose, Hibs, Queens Park, Partick Thistle, Ayr, Motherwell and so on. They were very nice and the worst they came out with were songs taking the piss out of the English (which they get back with interest
)This is about the Old Firm, an entirely different kettle of fish. I particularly object to Rangers but I have no great fondness for either.
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hibee said:
The thing you have to remember is that in the late 80s and early 90s we were winning nothing, the board were siphoning cash out of the club left right and centre, one year we weren't even able to attract a club sponsor (although the strip looked far better that year). Yet despite all that we were still getting about 30k every second saturday. 30000 fans who'd ten years before been used to quality players such as McAvennie, McLeod, Johnstone (boo hisss!) and McGrain now turning up to see Wayne Biggins, Carl Muggleton and Stuart Slater (£1.5m!!).
The fact is, Celtic do have a worldwide appeal, as their billing in last year's World Championship or whatever that USA tour was branded, a tournament where Liverpool and Chelsea were rebranded as "Reds" and "Blues" and Celtic were, along with Man Utd, the main attraction.
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Well Charlton finished above Newcastle United.proud_american said:
Case closed.
It ain't gonna happen - it would need a Premiership rule change which requires a 75% vote in favour (15 out of 20 clubs) so why vote for something that may make it harder to keep your Premiership place when realistically anyone from 8th down could get relegated in a bad season ?
It can't be for the money as nearly all Premiership clubs play to virtually full houses.
It can't be for the money as nearly all Premiership clubs play to virtually full houses.
pasy ohara said:
What about the soldiers song ? Are you denying that Celtic have bigoted fans and have directly benefited from the boring rivalry with rangers over the years.
Rangers may have more to be ashamed of with a completely discrimatory player policy up to the 80s but Celtic have done very well out of Polarising fans in Scotland and have done little to help a move away from sectarianism.
Though come to think of it there was "Bhoys against Bigotry"
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