Yep.
(Don't even mention Trade unions.)
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(It's in the Managers "training guides")
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Yep.
(Don't even mention Trade unions.)
(Sackable offense)
(It's in the Managers "training guides")
sorry thats bollocks
outside of all but very small franchises"Statutory Trade Union Recognition
If you have more than 20 people working for your company, the new statutory procedure for the recognition of independent trade unions in businesses applies to you.
Compulsory trade union recognition came into force on 6 June 2000. From now on you will have to deal with the unions if your workers vote in favour.
There have been reports in the press of employers' fears that the new law will discourage expansion. It certainly looks as if we are to be faced with another increase in bureaucracy, with an estimated two hours a day spent on preparing for and implementing it.
However, unless you decide to limit your workforce to 20 forever, you would be well advised to find out now what's involved and be prepared in case your company is targeted by one of the unions seeking recognition.
Total resistance to involvement with the unions is likely to be counter-productive, since the law now enables trade union recognition to be imposed, even against an employer's wishes. Some employers are already holding discussions with trade unions to build good relations and smooth the way for amicable negotiations leading to agreements which will be of benefit to both the business and the employees."
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e2a: sorry, i am only refferring to the UK of course, i keep forgetting that there are countries outside of this fine one that have less person centred law makers
e2a again: i dont mean you are talking bollocks, i belive you that it is (?was) in the manual, doesnt make it legal however
subversplat
writer of wrongs
Fuck sake, a McDonalds advert just came on Spotify while I was reading this thread. I am doubly offended now 
I had a McDonalds this morning for the first time in years because nowhere else was open at that time.
I thought it was supposed to be cheap?
A sausage, egg and cheese bagel with a hash brown and a latte came to £4.27. You get a full fry up in one of the cafés for about that. And I was still hungry afterwards.
I thought it was supposed to be cheap?
A sausage, egg and cheese bagel with a hash brown and a latte came to £4.27. You get a full fry up in one of the cafés for about that. And I was still hungry afterwards.
subversplat
writer of wrongs
Fuck that's a lot! You can get a full fry up with a pint of beer in a Wetherspoons for that
my local greasy spoon does:
3 sausage, 3 bacon, 2 eggs, beans, tomatoes, mushrooms, chips, bread butter and a mug of tea for just 13p more that that!!
the heart attack is optional but at no extra charge
Fuck that's a lot! You can get a full fry up with a pint of beer in a Wetherspoons for that
eeek wetherspoons food is worse that Mcd.. all nasty cook chill stuff
Nigel
For A Degenerates' Workers State
Didn't McDonalds UK claim that their Beef didn't come directly from South Amreica at one time.
Trade Union policy is the same as places like Borders, they'd rather close down a department than let a branch be set up there.
http://www.mcspotlight.org/campaigns/tactics/unionall.html
Conditions of workers in the meat industry and quality of meat, although not completely connected with McDonalds is a bit dodgy as well.
http://untreaty.un.org/unts/1_60000/25/31/00049505.pdf
http://www.rel-uita.org/companias/cargill/feria_de_horrores-eng.htm
http://www.eldis.org/go/topics/resource-guides/agriculture/pastoralism&id=38287&type=Document
http://mwr.org.uk/tradeunion.htm
The Ratio of meat to arable to 4 to 1. Meaning that if people contine to live and eat in the same way as they do in first world countries then we will have to have three or four planets to keep the population of earth!
McDonalds is a high profile proponent of this process with a policy of exporting such a life style, with hard sell marketing on a scale of mass globalisation.
There is also he question of feeding such a large scale market in cattle, through cash crops which lead to a situation of near starvation in developing/third world.
That is before you come to the effects of destroying the rainforests
To look positively on the economic policies of Brazil until arguably recentely; a country that ended up using coffee as fuel for its trains in any way positive is absolute lunacy!
Trade Union policy is the same as places like Borders, they'd rather close down a department than let a branch be set up there.
http://www.mcspotlight.org/campaigns/tactics/unionall.html
Conditions of workers in the meat industry and quality of meat, although not completely connected with McDonalds is a bit dodgy as well.
http://untreaty.un.org/unts/1_60000/25/31/00049505.pdf
http://www.rel-uita.org/companias/cargill/feria_de_horrores-eng.htm
http://www.eldis.org/go/topics/resource-guides/agriculture/pastoralism&id=38287&type=Document
http://mwr.org.uk/tradeunion.htm
The Ratio of meat to arable to 4 to 1. Meaning that if people contine to live and eat in the same way as they do in first world countries then we will have to have three or four planets to keep the population of earth!
McDonalds is a high profile proponent of this process with a policy of exporting such a life style, with hard sell marketing on a scale of mass globalisation.
There is also he question of feeding such a large scale market in cattle, through cash crops which lead to a situation of near starvation in developing/third world.
That is before you come to the effects of destroying the rainforests
To look positively on the economic policies of Brazil until arguably recentely; a country that ended up using coffee as fuel for its trains in any way positive is absolute lunacy!
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my local greasy spoon does:
3 sausage, 3 bacon, 2 eggs, beans, tomatoes, mushrooms, chips, bread butter and a mug of tea for just 13p more that that!!
the heart attack is optional but at no extra charge
fuck me!
that's 2 sausages, 2bacon and 1 egg, tomatoes, mushrooms and chips more than I had.
This is a very valid point... and it is funny as we rapidly eat up resources that we preach so much to the few peoples on the planet who sustain those resources. And yet actually give them nothing.
The realistic view is that the only way that the western world can redress this balance is to consume those resources carefully and replenish them in every way possible.
What is the only way that is going to happen? Through the corporations.
How is that going to happen? Through sensible consumer action.
Preach all you like but let's not start pretending that we're not all part of the chain somewhere.
Nigel
For A Degenerates' Workers State
The whole point is, that it is western corporations forcing through and dictating economic/socio economic policies, backing up corrupt and in many cases highly brutal authoritarian and in almost all corrupt governments at the detriment of the majority of the population, paying off a ruling elite and making vast profits, ploughing very little back in.
Are there any governements that haven't done that?
Look. The first part is complicity. Once you accept that in too many ways we are complicit in the ravaging of the thrid world in our rush to build the first, then you can look to repairing those ravages.
No-one can defend the historical actions of certain companies at certain times in their desperate drive for profits... however those profits were linked directly to the end consumer who wants cheaper, faster food for the same money. The fact that they became huge is not the fault of MacDonalds.. it's the result of their popularity. Their ability to give the consumer what they want (and in some cases make them want it too). Their first responsibility is to themselves then their customer.
The point is any major involvement in the third world is going to dictate socio/economic policy. Many third world governments and their alternatives are corrupt. It's broadly similar to the arms question. You need what they got.. so what you gonna do?
As for ploughing little back in.. that goes without saying. The less they pay, the less you pay. However the question is what would happen to them if they stopped ploughing anything?
As a consumer there are things you can affect and things you can't but a broad snobbery against MacD's for simplistic political reasons does nothing for no-one. And it ignore the role that fast-food corporation have in feeding a large part of the population. If you have plenty of time and a live-in cook you will never need fast food. But not everyone's life is like that.
What improvement there has been in MacD's methods has been entirely consumer led. If we want them to improve further we have to lead more.
I'm saying there's no such thing as an equal playing field. If you think there is then it's you who's being naive.
So what is your point?
Last line of the post before last.
Oh.. and shut up you sanctimonious prigs - you're spoiling my Quarterpounder with cheese!!!
mcdonnalds help poor people in brazilYes.
Help.
Seriously they're involved in a lot of union busting, which would imply helping people isn't their motivation.
Yes.
Help.
Seriously they're involved in a lot of union busting, which would imply helping people isn't their motivation.
Or that foreign unions are rife with corruption in the name of the workers....
Regardless, their motivation isn't to help anyone. They are a large corporation, their motivation is profit.
Not that I know a lot about McDonalds. I just think it's good common sense to assume that any large, profit driven corporation isn't acting out of the goodness of their heart.
Not that I know a lot about McDonalds. I just think it's good common sense to assume that any large, profit driven corporation isn't acting out of the goodness of their heart.
If this simplistic shite is what passes for sense nowadays, I'm glad I'm not common.
Tars absolutely right, the primary purpose of any company is to generate profits for their company in order to provide dividends for their shareholders, ethics are well down the list of priorities - particularly it seems for big american companies who will often undertake suspect activities until they are exposed or the activities are legislated against. The multi-nationals willexploit labour rules and every legal weakness they can find to do that.
I don't know if McDonalds really are responsible for destruction the rainforests or not. Where is the case against them being set out?
I don't know if McDonalds really are responsible for destruction the rainforests or not. Where is the case against them being set out?
ronnies spunk in a cup
Well I am a veggie, but I have been in McDonalds and had Quorn and veggie burgers and they were lovely. Every time I have been in a McDonalds they have been packed to the rafters.
I feel sorry for the millions of cattle killed in South America for McDonalds, who do not have easy deaths. Yes it would be better to eat at places where the meat is home reared and killed quickly, but how many places are they like that?
For all the campaigning against McDonalds, they are as popular as ever. The public could not give a shit about clearing forests in South America, the farmers, the farm workers, the horrible death the cattle suffer or how badly treated McDonalds staff are treated, as long as they get a cheap tasty meal.
I feel sorry for the millions of cattle killed in South America for McDonalds, who do not have easy deaths. Yes it would be better to eat at places where the meat is home reared and killed quickly, but how many places are they like that?
For all the campaigning against McDonalds, they are as popular as ever. The public could not give a shit about clearing forests in South America, the farmers, the farm workers, the horrible death the cattle suffer or how badly treated McDonalds staff are treated, as long as they get a cheap tasty meal.
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