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Mayweather V McGregor ... the Circus comes to town

Discussion in 'general sports' started by LiamO, Jun 15, 2017.

  1. DotCommunist

    DotCommunist my world is fire and blood

  2. Lord Camomile

    Lord Camomile Lemonade socialist

    *swift Google*

    Ahhh, ok :)
     
  3. PaoloSanchez

    PaoloSanchez Well-Known Member

    Indeed, it was pitty patty rubbish, I honestly don't know why seasoned commentators thought that McGregor was any good.
     
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  4. copliker

    copliker ...

    Three act structure.

    I couldn't be arsed to check but the first three rounds would've caused a movement in betting odds as well.
     
  5. elbows

    elbows WoeTimer

    It's not like he has legendary conditioning for MMA either. He was insanely tired by round 3 or 4 of his 2nd fight with Diaz for example.
     
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  6. Athos

    Athos Well-Known Member

    Having watched it, i think the commentary over-egged Connor's performance. He may have edged the first three rounds, but it was Floyd thereafter. Mayweather had a plan that he executed well. He seemed content to concede a little early on, to sound his opponent out (not unreasonable give he's an unknown quantity, in boxing terms). McGregor didn't have a lot besides hubris. Not for enough, average technique, and no power. The best UFC has to offer, at his very peak, was made to look average by a 40 year old man who's been retired for two years.
     
  7. Wilf

    Wilf Scratch a white car - for Christmas!

    I've only seen highlights but it looked like Magregor got away with a bit too. Hand on the back of Mayweather's head and neck, couple of shots to the back of the head. But whilst ^ is true, it was also still impressive for him to survive 9 rounds against Mayweather. Anyway, hope the fucking taxman catches up with the pair of them. Mayweather of course should still be in prison.
     
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  8. Athos

    Athos Well-Known Member

    Yes and some hammerfists. Not sure how impressive surviving nine rounds is, really. Mayweather isn't famed as a knockout merchant, and given his age, condition and record, he was never going to go for the early stoppage.
     
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  9. elbows

    elbows WoeTimer

    I dont really think he is the best UFC has to offer, some of his performances are great and he is the best hype man the UFC have had, but not the best fighter.

    Anyway the whole point of MMA is that its mixed, and as such we should never expect an MMA fighter to win a fight where the rules dont allow a mix of techniques. A great boxer should always beat a great MMA fighter if its a boxing match. And this is most certainly true vice versa, eg nobody ever pretended that Mayweather would stand a chance in an MMA fight.
     
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  10. Wilf

    Wilf Scratch a white car - for Christmas!

    Yeah, forgot that. Well, I'm no boxing analyst, I don't even watch it that often. But when you get beyond the hype and celebrity endorsements and all that, the serious boxing analysts all seemed to be suggesting it would be much more one sided. But yeah, as you say, he was up against a naturally cautious 40 year old retiree. He'd have been destroyed by Golovkin or pretty much any other significant currently active fighter. But there's still something about surviving that long against the former best there is in a different (if adjacent) sport.
     
  11. Athos

    Athos Well-Known Member

    Indeed. Which is why the cross code stuff is pointless. I hope that's the last of it, and the last I have to see of McGregor or any other representatives of his ugly 'sport'.
     
  12. butchersapron

    butchersapron blood on the walls

    And a 40 year old known for his almost obsessive defensive style who ended up walking cmg down for seven straight rounds. The more this fight is re-watched the worse it's going to be for cmg.
     
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  13. elbows

    elbows WoeTimer

    Oh that old chestnut. It's 2017, MMA is a legit sport that has treated me to many exciting displays of skill and endurance over the last decade. I dont understand whats ugly about it, but then boxing has always bored me silly.
     
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  14. Wilf

    Wilf Scratch a white car - for Christmas!

    Having said I'm no boxing analyst, I'll now prove it... one bit of analysis I did read in the build up is that Magregor is very good at managing the distance between himself and his opponent (longer reach, leaning in, leaving one hand right in his opponent's face, that sort of thing). Seemed like that actually worked for him in the early part of the fight. Mayweather then walked him down - probably planned to do, but certainly had to do - which all worked out when Magregor ran out of steam.
     
  15. Athos

    Athos Well-Known Member

    Fair enough. Looks ugly to me, and doesn't seem to embody a lot of sportsmanship. But each to their own.
     
  16. pengaleng

    pengaleng Lil' pengaleng PhD. another handsome boy graduate.

    MMA is sick :cool:
     
  17. S☼I

    S☼I more baffled by the basics, tbh

    I agree
    Hitting people when they're already incapable of defending themselves
     
  18. Corax

    Corax Luke 5:16. Acts 4:35.

    At boxing. Put the pair inside an octagon and I'd be very surprised to see it last a round.

    I'm sorry, but "The best the UFC has to offer" sounds a little snide.
     
  19. Corax

    Corax Luke 5:16. Acts 4:35.

    That's kinda the origin of MMA though.
     
  20. Corax

    Corax Luke 5:16. Acts 4:35.

    Final nail. You don't have a clue what you're talking about pal.
     
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  21. Corax

    Corax Luke 5:16. Acts 4:35.

    There are much more interesting match-ups that could be made by putting MMA fighters in a boxing ring. Steven Thompson in particular comes to mind.

    But I'd rather not bother with any of these circuses. Boxing is boxing. MMA is MMA. I don't need to see Usain Bolt play skittles.
     
  22. PaoloSanchez

    PaoloSanchez Well-Known Member

    I'm not into UFC/MMA at all and don't know that much about it. I used enjoy watching the odd boxing match but I'm kind of put off by the things like Michael Watson and G-Mac. McGregor Mayweather was more about theatre than genuine sport and was more like WWF with all the talk and hype build up beforehand. It was a bit of a circus and a lot of people were intrigued enough to buy into it.
     
  23. Athos

    Athos Well-Known Member

    Agreed.


    Let it stay there, then.


    Sorry, but, to me, pinning a bloke to the floor and smashing him in the face until he's unconscious doesn't seem that sporting. And, to me, it looks ugly. Happy to agree to disagree, though.


    Agreed.
     
  24. S☼I

    S☼I more baffled by the basics, tbh

    I'd probably watch that. There's a bloke who reached the pinnacle of his sport, set himself up for life and yet still has remained humble and smart off the track and seems to be a fine man. I wouldn't go to the end of my garden to have a chat with 'Money' or 'Notorious'.
     
  25. S☼I

    S☼I more baffled by the basics, tbh

    Besides, that's not even a fair comparison. MMA and boxing are both combat sports and being able to punch is at least useful in the former. A better comparison would-be 'would you watch Usain Bolt play on the wing in the next Soccer Aid?'
    Yes, yes I would. Cos he's as fast as fuck.
     
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  26. bemused

    bemused Well-Known Member

    He also has a hugely entertaining personality.
     
  27. bromley

    bromley ...isn't as good as Lewisham.

    Would love to see him try a RNC in boxing gloves, but then again he is a BJJ brown belt, chortle.
     
  28. bromley

    bromley ...isn't as good as Lewisham.

    As for McGregor being the best the sport has to often, just because he thinks that doesn't make it true (he also thought he would KO Mayweather in the first round) he only has one future hall of famer on his record and has been submitted fairly easy thrice.
     
  29. skyscraper101

    skyscraper101 0891 50 50 50

    I followed my usual routine for these 4/5am fights.

    Went to bed around midnight with Radio 5 on my phone and drifted off not really caring if I missed it or not. But I know I usually come to a cuple of times in the night so I'll catch whatever happened. I woke up three times. First time was during the national anthems, fell asleep again, second time seemed to be in the fourth or fifth round and the commentary was all praise for McGregor for showing he's a fighter, fell asleep again, the last time was when it was all over and Floyd was giving it the humble victor. Then switched it off.
     
  30. Bonesy

    Bonesy 9"

    He did better than I anticipated in terms of how long he lasted but that was essentially down to Mayweather as opposed to his own skill set. if Floyd had wanted to finish it 5-6 rounds earlier he could have, I don't think there's any doubt about that. At times McGregor's efforts looked decidedly amateurish - the pointless slapping in close quarters for example - which struck me as somewhat odd as striking is his greatest strength (albeit in the cage). Mayweather looked to me like he was operating on about 60%, happy to cruise along after the initial flurries from McGregor knowing the result would never be truly in question. McGregor wasn't humiliated - if anything he came out of it with a degree of credit - but it was never a serious contest.
     
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