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Mayoral Elections May!

Yep, vote for a racist bigot instead. that'll show them!

there is a difference between being a bit 'foot in mouth' like Boris and inviting and embracing a homophobic and racist nutter like Qaradawi. When even Peter Tatchell is criticising Livingslime its quite obvious that KL's number is up.

Apololgies for the cut and paste but here is Peter Tatchell's post from the Guardian's Comment is Free blog:

I don't normally put reams of c and p but this time it is relevant to the issue.

Nobody should be under any illusions about the sort of people Livingstone consorts with.

And for the record I'd feel the same way if the London mayor embraced bigots from other religions as well.



From Comment is Free cross posted to Harrys Place

"London's mayor, Ken Livingstone, has admitted that he "probably shouldn't" have denounced me as an "Islamophobe". His admission came during an interview by journalist Johann Hari, published in the Independent newspaper.



In 2004 and 2005, I was publicly savaged by the mayor as an "Islamophobe" with "a long history of Islamophobia" after I criticised him for embracing and defending the Muslim fundamentalist cleric, Yusuf al-Qaradawi.



Ken's implied admission of error is better than nothing but, of course, it comes four years after the original untruth. Moreover, the vague, non-explicit nature of his "sorry" is rather irritating. He says he "probably shouldn't" have denounced me as an Islamophobe. I am grateful for this admission. But "probably" still sounds like someone who doesn't have the courage to say straight out: "Sorry, I was wrong."



Ken has undermined his (sort of) apology with his comments in the April edition of Attitude magazine. He was asked: "But do you really think that Peter Tatchell is 'Islamophobic'? The mayor replied: "Don't you think he spends more time opposing homophobia in Islam?"



Apart from evading the question, this reply is ill-informed nonsense. I have been far more robust and frequent with my protests against Christian fundamentalism; having outed 10 Anglican bishops in 1994 to expose the hypocrisy of their anti-gay stance, interrupted the Archbishop of Canterbury's Easter sermon in 1998 over his support for homophobic discrimination, and released inflated condoms into the dome of Westminster Cathedral during high mass in 1994, in protest at the Pope's opposition to their use to stop the spread of HIV. In the last four years, I have seized the main stage at the Church of England General Synod in York and picketed the Cardinal's Palm Sunday procession in Westminster, in protest at church homophobia. Ken's suggestion that I have singled out Islam for the most condemnation is a joke.



Ken has recently admitted that he didn't know much about Qaradawi when he embraced him. That makes Ken's behaviour even worse. He took a public stance in defence of Qaradawi when he was not apprised of the full facts.



Does any of this matter? Yes. An apparent willingness to defame other people with false allegations shows that Ken has, on this issue at least, lost his sense of fairness and honesty.



I supported Ken when he ran for and won the leadership of the Greater London Council in 1981. Under Ken, the GLC pioneered a new open, accessible, people-empowering municipal socialism. He and his GLC Labour colleagues will deservedly be praised for decades to come for opening the doors of County Hall to all the people of London and trail-blazing the advancement of women, black, disabled and gay people. I backed Ken again when he stood for Mayor in 2000, campaigning for him and even helping to draft a number of policy ideas for his election campaign.



Overall, I think he has been a good mayor and I have many times publicly defended him. His policies on public transport and environmental protection are moving London in the right direction. He may have got a little too cosy with big business and the City of London, but I certainly don't want to see Boris Johnson elected as mayor in May.



Nevertheless, because I criticised Ken on one issue (Qaradawi), he has slurred me as an Islamophobe. It all began when Ken invited the right-wing Muslim cleric to City Hall in 2004 and saluted him as an "honoured guest". I found his embrace of Qaradawi very odd and quite appalling, given that the sheikh is indisputably antisemitic, homophobic and sexist.



As well as supporting terrorism, including terror attacks on innocent civilians in Israel, he advocates the physical beating of disobedient wives, female genital mutilation, forcing women to wear the hijab, the flogging of women who have sex outside marriage, and he blames female rape victims who dress immodestly (ie women who are not fully covered from head to toe).



The sheikh also endorses the execution of lesbian and gay people in Muslim states, and the killing of Muslims who give up their faith or convert to another religion.



You can read more details about Qaradawi's inhuman, barbaric policies here. His vile, reactionary views on these issues are rejected by the vast majority of British Muslims. They are much more open-minded and tolerant, which makes it all the more bizarre that the mayor of London gave the sheikh a platform at City Hall. Why promote an unrepresentative fanatic?



Instead of allying with liberal, progressive Muslims, Ken has often feted reactionary Islamists. Left-wing and feminist Muslims don't get pride of place at City Hall. Their opponents and persecutors do.



I was not the only person from the left, progressive side of the political spectrum who exposed Qaradawi's anti-human rights agenda. Similar criticisms were made, in measured terms, by the diverse London Community Coalition (LCC) consisting of Muslim, Hindu, Christian, Jewish, Sikh, student, women's and gay organisations.



The LCC requested a meeting with the mayor. He refused to meet them to hear their concerns. In response, the LCC issued this appeal to members of the London Assembly.



After all these attempts at dialogue with the mayor were rebuffed, the London Community Coalition published its expose of Qaradawi. You can read the LCC's critique here.



Despite my record of support for Ken, he singled me out for particular denunciation over Qaradawi. The mayor condemned me as anti-Muslim, and even suggested I was a pawn of the Israeli secret service and US neocons.



The mayor's far left supporters waged a vicious, year-long hate campaign of lies and disinformation which, even to this day, has resulted me being branded as a "racist" and "Islamophobe" by sections of the left. Consequently, I am no longer invited to speak at some anti-fascist, anti-war and trade union events.



The mayor and his allies were wrong to smear me as Islamophobic. Everyone knows that I have done a huge amount of work campaigning for the rights of Muslim prisoners, asylum applicants and those falsely accused of terrorism. I have reserved my fire for Muslim fundamentalists, not Muslims in general. Moreover, I have long supported the human rights of the people of Iran, Palestine, Chechnya, Iraq, Darfur and the Western Sahara - who are mostly Muslim.



Ken's tacit acknowledgment that he made a mistake comes a month before the London mayoral elections, at a time when many gay voters are deserting him over his collusion with Qaradawi and other anti-gay and anti-women Muslim fundamentalists. It looks like a bid to shore up the haemorrhaging pink vote.



The mayor is, of course, surrounded by several very nasty, sectarian and often incompetent advisers who have briefed him badly and who have needlessly antagonised the gay community. They have, for example, refused to allow the mayor's quarterly LGBT Forum to elect its own chair and to propose or vote on recommendations to the mayor. This controlling, domineering style of politics has resulted in many organisations deserting the LGBT Forum. Perhaps Ken doesn't know about the anti-democratic tactics that are being imposed in his name?



Ken Livingstone has done many good things for Londoners and for the capital's gay community. He has a long, commendable history of championing queer rights. But his defence of Qaradawi and his smears against me and others, like the London Community Coalition and Trevor Phillips, have caused him serious political damage. His integrity and credibility are tarnished. As well as being a personal tragedy, this is also a political disaster. It could help pave the way for Mayor Boris Johnson. "
 
I've read and heard all I need to know about the racist bigot hugger Livingstone to know where to place my cross.


You're just coming over as a twit now. KL has an honourable history of being anti-racist way back when your tory chums were openly playing the race card and the Met were just a couple of notchs off being a bunch of BNP thugs. The fact that you're getting this shit out of the Standard - owned by the Daily "we support the Blackshirts" Mail just makes you a useful fool for them.
 
You're just coming over as a twit now. KL has an honourable history of being anti-racist way back when your tory chums were openly playing the race card and the Met were just a couple of notchs off being a bunch of BNP thugs. The fact that you're getting this shit out of the Standard - owned by the Daily "we support the Blackshirts" Mail just makes you a useful fool for them.

I'm getting nothing from the Standard so don't try the Blackshirt smear with me sunshine.

If you look at my post above you will see that it doesn't come from the Standard.

Besides didn't KL work for the Standard at one point.

I agree that the Tories used to be racist and at one point East Ham Tory Club excluded black people from membership so I know all about their history and need no lectures on it.

I think that there are racists in ALL parties not just the Tories. I just find KL's embracing of Qaradawi much more offensive than Boris's idiocy. IMO Boris's racism thorugh ignorance is always easier to deal with than the poltiical and well thought out intellectual racism of KL.

As regards Taki well he is more a comedian than a commentator isn't he.
 
there is a difference between being a bit 'foot in mouth' like Boris and inviting and embracing a homophobic and racist nutter like Qaradawi. When even Peter Tatchell is criticising Livingslime its quite obvious that KL's number is up.

Seems to me like it was Redmond O'Neill who's behind the Qaradawi stunt (Private Eye #1206, page 9). If anyone should go I think it's him.

Obviously Ken should take a knock for it too. But to vote him out on the issue is absurd. Even more so when you consider Boris' background.

Still, you've made your mind up. And that's that! :rolleyes:
 
ken has got all my back up. i think he has done an extremely good job for london in the past few years. :)

brian paddick already is on a great pension at 40 years something. he will not get my vote!
 
Ken's stance and his inability to apologise for his fucks ups are certainly making me question if he's fit to be the mayor. But, I think the Al Qaradawi incident strikes me more as Ken being so busy to embrace any minority group to show how open minded he is, leads to him making the wrong calls.

IMO that's what happened in that case and as Tatchell says to meet someone and then admit you didn't know much about them is foolish to say the least. Does that make him a homophobe and racist? No, certinalky no more or less than Boris, just a bit of a headline grabbing idiot who should know better.

I've seen nothing from Boris on policies however that convinces me he'll do a better job than Ken let alone that he's just a gaff prone and filled with his own self importance. A vote for Boris isn't one in the eye for Ken, it's potentially voting in an even bigger idiot.
 
As dodgy as Ken is in some respects (esp. considering KJ's post), I think he's done alot of good for london. I'm so terrified that Boris might get in (most Metro readers prefer him apparently - yes I know that's a tory rag, but still, it's worrying), that I'm going to vote for him, and Sian Berry as a second.

I'd ideally put Sian first and then Ken cos my heart lies with the Greens (they're the only socialists left), but I think keeping Boris out is more important at the moment.
 
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