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boohoo said:
There was some very good quality curtains that I'd like to have.
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why didn't you just nick them then. it's not like a load of posh anarkids would stop you.

just say you were poor and working class and they'd pat you on the head and send you on your way ;)
 
Dan U said:
why didn't you just nick them then. it's not like a load of posh anarkids would stop you.

just say you were poor and working class and they'd pat you on the head and send you on your way ;)
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I'm sure they would like the art installation idea much better...
 
it'll be a shell within a couple of weeks. Now it's been in the paper and that. Some of the anarkids might have a bit of a wake up.
 
bluestreak said:
No, they don't. Commonly people live in council houses, terraced suburban boxes, and in over-priced rented flats.

It is quite uncommon these days to a) squat; and b) live in mayfair mansions.

Just so you know, like.
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Yep, I know - it was a "study sculpture at St Martins College" related remark. I should have referenced J Cocker - I cant really expect people to see inside my head !
 
I know the people who have the place..It's a nice fuckin place.The people are a bit wanky though (maybe im just allergic to art students who want to turn a building with 32 rooms into an ART space) but still good on em ;)
 
Bungle73 said:
Maybe I should come and make use of some of your property you haven't used for a while without your permission. :rolleyes:


:rolleyes:
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Be nice to have more property than I needed. :rolleyes:

A group of artist squatters came and took over the premises in October 2001. They found human faeces, drug paraphernalia, and swastikas daubed on the walls, along with a collection of bags and purses thrown into the backyard by muggers who dumped them there after emptying them. They set about clearing up the mounds of rubble outside, cleaned and painted the inside and, once the repairs were complete, threw open the doors and invited the local community to use the space for artistic and environmental endeavours.
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http://www.guardian.co.uk/society/2008/aug/27/housing.communities
 
Dan U said:
why didn't you just nick them then. it's not like a load of posh anarkids would stop you.

just say you were poor and working class and they'd pat you on the head and send you on your way ;)
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I should just go and ask... they're only down the road from work.

It's not art installation but house insulation. :D
 
Bungle73 said:
Maybe I should come and make use of some of your property you haven't used for a while without your permission. :rolleyes:


:rolleyes:
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So you think that leaving a piece of property uninhabited for years while there's a shortage of housing is a tenable position?

Are you one of those lovely people who believe that personal property rights should supersede everything else, including good sense?
 
ViolentPanda said:
So you think that leaving a piece of property uninhabited for years while there's a shortage of housing is a tenable position?

Are you one of those lovely people who believe that personal property rights should supersede everything else, including good sense?
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If it was a council house then you'd be right, but it isn't so people on the housing waiting list aren't going to get it anyway. How would you feel if you owned a property and just because you hadn't used it for a while somebody just decided to break in and squat in it?
 
Bungle73 said:
If it was a council house then you'd be right, but it isn't so people on the housing waiting list aren't going to get it anyway. How would you feel if you owned a property and just because you hadn't used it for a while somebody just decided to break in and squat in it?
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1) You don't need to be on a council waiting list (you do realise that with need being prioritised it isn't even worth some "types" of people such as single males putting their names down, don't you?) to be in need of housing.

2) If I owned a residential property, and had left it vacant and poorly-secured, then I might not like it being squatted, but it'd be my own fault.

3) Squatters don't "break in". If they do break in they've committed criminal damage and can be evicted far more easily.
 
If I owned a propery I didn't use, I'd feel guilty about it. Therefore, I'd never be in that situation.
 
Bungle73 said:
If it was a council house then you'd be right, but it isn't so people on the housing waiting list aren't going to get it anyway. How would you feel if you owned a property and just because you hadn't used it for a while somebody just decided to break in and squat in it?
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Anyone who owns a property that stands empty for more than 6 weeks should pay a weekly unoccupied fee until it's occupied. Any 2nd homes this rule should be 2 weeks. ANY empty property is an obscenity in my eyes - if there wasn't such a chronic shortage of social housing and house prices weren't as high as they are I might be less inclined to be mean...actually, no I wouldn't.
 
ViolentPanda said:
1) You don't need to be on a council waiting list (you do realise that with need being prioritised it isn't even worth some "types" of people such as single males putting their names down, don't you?) to be in need of housing.
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I don't see what that's got to do with anything. Those sort of people wouldn't be able to afford to move in a building like this in a location like this anyway, so it's not taking anything away from them.

2) If I owned a residential property, and had left it vacant and poorly-secured, then I might not like it being squatted, but it'd be my own fault.
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I'm sorry but I was brought up to believe that if I do something wrong (ie occupy a building that isn't mine without permission) then it's my fault and nobody else's.

Crispy said:
If I owned a propery I didn't use, I'd feel guilty about it. Therefore, I'd never be in that situation.
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I don't see what there would be to feel guilty about, it's your property it's yours to do with as you please.
ViolentPanda said:
If I owned a property at all, I'd feel guilty about it :o.
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What's wrong with owning property? :confused:
 
kyser_soze said:
Anyone who owns a property that stands empty for more than 6 weeks should pay a weekly unoccupied fee until it's occupied. Any 2nd homes this rule should be 2 weeks. ANY empty property is an obscenity in my eyes - if there wasn't such a chronic shortage of social housing and house prices weren't as high as they are I might be less inclined to be mean...actually, no I wouldn't.
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This isn't, and will never be, a council house so that's all irrelevant.
 
Bungle73 said:
I don't see what there would be to feel guilty about, it's your property it's yours to do with as you please.
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It's wasteful. I abhor waste. In many ways it's my core moral principle.

Secondly, "Doing as I please" isn't a patch on "Do as I would be done by"
 
Anyway, it could easily be a council house under recent legislation changes that aim to deal with putting unused properties back into business for people on council waiting lists. In this case I don't think the council (H&F?) could afford to do it up, and even if they did I don't think they could find a family on the waiting list who need a 31 bedroom home. Perhaps a hostel of some sort, a halfway house for people in need of TA and on the waiting list. You could definitely get a few families in need there.
 
bluestreak said:
Perhaps a hostel of some sort, a halfway house for people in need of TA and on the waiting list.
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now that's one planning meeting i'd love to attend.

"Proposal - to convert a 31 bedroom house in an exclusive Mayfair square to a controlled access hostel for schedule 2 offenders recently released from prison and needing rehabilitation in to the community"
 
bluestreak said:
Jesus christ bungle, get a clue.
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Indeed.

Bungle, this thread has started to go the way most do when they refer to one of a few select topics.

You post your viewpoint, it doesn't fit in so you get slated, then it gets abusive.

I just wouldn't bother. :)
 
Bungle73 said:
If it was a council house then you'd be right, but it isn't so people on the housing waiting list aren't going to get it anyway. How would you feel if you owned a property and just because you hadn't used it for a while somebody just decided to break in and squat in it?
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Seeing that the actual owners are some shell company based in an off-shore tax haven and has been contacted by the authorities but has not responded. I am sure that it is not top of their list of priorities. They own the property and have it sitting there unfurnished and therefore exempt from council tax for six months followed by paying 20% council tax. How long the owners would left the property empty and decaying and for what purpose if not maybe just to develop at sometime in the future. What I find unpleasant is that the current UK and local authority tax system makes more cost efficient for the owners to have this property lying empty for an unspecified period of time, or until the next property boom, then to develop it into a habitable living space.
 
kyser_soze said:
Anyone who owns a property that stands empty for more than 6 weeks should pay a weekly unoccupied fee until it's occupied. Any 2nd homes this rule should be 2 weeks. ANY empty property is an obscenity in my eyes - if there wasn't such a chronic shortage of social housing and house prices weren't as high as they are I might be less inclined to be mean...actually, no I wouldn't.
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I agree, and maybe the rate should go up over time. The trouble is that some of these guys are so rich that leaving a house unoccupied and paying for the privilege would be par for the course.
 
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