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Tanget: "Ya Libnan is a blog, or perhaps came from a blog following the Harriri Assasinaton.": It WAS a blog, andyes, it was iniated afer the Harriri Assasination. It is not an online newspaper. Your point is...?

"It happened in April, 2008.": Yes...And...?

"It has 100 international contributors.." I would imagine that this point makes it all the more valuale. Wonder wht the point was here?


"The article was an AP story...": No, it was crtainly not. AP information was regurgiated and included in the story as it is in most every other medium to large size meia source the world (those that concentrate on the news).

"The title was not 'World's Sexiest Camel'.": Since THIS article was the one I was referring to, of course it WAS. WRONG AGAIN.

"Story came from Dubai..." Yep. You can also find it reported in Reuters, and hundred of other sources, covering may such contests. The event was not uniqu but of courseto people here it is. Obviously. That is of so sad but of course you and most other would not even realise that. You see it as n attempt to disparage Arabs....DESPITE the fact that it was titled by Arabs, written by Arabs, pubished by Arabs, and read by many Arabs. Hmmm...Again...

"Right-wing (sic) bloggers in the US appear to love ths site." Yes, because evidently you have conducted a poll. If you so. I imagine that util I posted this you never eve heard of the site. Now you can speak authoritively on it.


"For English language news on Lebanon, the Daily Star is far better...": If you say so. You DO know what they say about opinions, right?

"If 'Ya Libnan' is really Arab Media, what are they doing in Lebanon?": I believe I hve been more than clear about Arab migrations during the Islamic Advent.



"The Huffington piece does not mention the word "sexy," so Ya Libnan's piece is not representative of Arab Media.": Quite some sense of logic you have there Tangent. Because Ariana Huffigton's mouthpiece does not use a certain word, a piece by an actual Arab mdia surce is clearly not Arab? Whatever. I will takea giant leap here and imagine you do not spak Arabic. Ergo, how would you even kow? By looking ONLINE at English languge sources? Suuuuure, thanks for the tip.




"El Jefe: "What the fuc& is Rachamim still doing here?": Obeying forum rules and not cursing. You?

Edito: "Did Mr. G-D (sic) colour Jewish Land from all other lands to distnguish it from all other lands?": No, G-D in my mind has nothing to do with it. What made it Jewish was, aside from Jews (among existing Peoples) are the only People to have ever had a nation there, combined with 4500 years of CONTINUOUS habitcion.
This is in adition to the fact that Jewish Culture developed there, as did Jewish religion, and that the Jews neved ceded an inch until in 1919 they agreed to coexist with Arabs who would later be known as "Palestinian."

Now, maybe you would deign to tell us why it is not Jewish Land?
 
Tangent: "It is a lie to say all Arabs today orignated in al Hejaz.": Arab culture and the Arab People DID though.That is the point. Maybe now you will get it.

" It is a lie to say all Arabic speakers share the same religion.": Who EVER said differently? In case it has not dawned on you, I am a native speaker. I am 100% Jewish. Clear yet?


JHE: True INDEED. They WOULD love that. I often ask myself what people think they gain from imposing their ideology on others.

El Jefe: "Do not be infantile.": YESSSSS, because using the word "fuc&" is so mature. ABSOLUTELY.

Spion: "Who ever said "Hitler was doing G-D's work"? I really hope yu are nt sggestng I did. I will say in advance that if you are, you are a liar. On that note can people please stick to subject matter and not Rachamim? Talk about infantile. Makes me want to use the word "fuc&."
 
JHE said:
Yeah. Urban75 should be Zionist-free.

It should be a happy gaggle of Israel-haters. Slamists, Trots and fake-Narchs all united in a very special hatred of the one little Jewish state.

That wickedly stolen little slither of the Middle East must be returned to its proper owners and put under Slamist management, inshallah.

Scum who take a different view should be banned. Many have been.

Anti-Zionists, on the other hand, are free to spew their bile... It's ever so progressive.
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I must say, if we're going to have a Zionist pig-fucker here, then it may as well be one who addresses arguments point by point.

I mean, previously all we've had is retards like Pete the Shrap and that redneck chicken-choking sisterfucker who liked guns a bit too much.
Can't even remember his name.

Oh and that neo-nazi guy who tried to kill Martin Luther King... um.. Diesel... who's getting radged in prison by huge black dudes on a daily basis with any luck.

So, JHE has a perfectly valid point.
 
His refusal to use the quote button does my tits in, sorry. He doesn't speak he rambles, spouting off so called facts like their coming out of some little military view of the world. No meeting of minds, you could say.

Tangent, however, is beating him like a baby here. If this was a boxing match his face would be a bloody pulp by now.
 
PK,

1. The Israeli who posted here whom I most remember was Strategist (and a few other names later). It was from reading exchanges between him and various rabid anti-Zionists that I learnt how it is round here. He was generally pretty courteous (in the face of great provocation). His opponents were anything but. I gather they repeatedly reported him for some alleged misdemeanour or other. The Powers That Be, generally pretty anti-Zionist, said that his being reported showed he was problem. He was banned. Isn't that generally how it works here?

2. Your talking of some Neo-Nazi is pretty bloody rich! I guess you know what Neo-Nazi views on Zionism are. If you are not sure, please check them out. It's very easy to do on the web. The Neo-Nazis and Islamists and (sadly) much of the British left are united in seeking the destruction of Israel. It's a disgusting alliance. I want no part of it.
 
JHE said:
PK,

1. The Israeli who posted here whom I most remember was Strategist (and a few other names later). It was from reading exchanges between him and various rabid anti-Zionists that I learnt how it is round here. He was generally pretty courteous (in the face of great provocation). His opponents were anything but. I gather they repeatedly reported him for some alleged misdemeanour or other. The Powers That Be, generally pretty anti-Zionist, said that his being reported showed he was problem. He was banned. Isn't that generally how it works here?
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Yeah but in essence, he was a cunt.

2. Your talking of some Neo-Nazi is pretty bloody rich! I guess you know what Neo-Nazi views on Zionism are. If you are not sure, please check them out. It's very easy to do on the web. The Neo-Nazis and Islamists and (sadly) much of the British left are united in seeking the destruction of Israel. It's a disgusting alliance. I want no part of it.
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Well, twas a loooong time ago.

And he actually covered up his more malignant views quite well.

It was only when he was arrested in the USA for gun smuggling that folk here discovered his dark past.

Again though, he was also drenched in cuntishness.
 
Well, I imagine that the same rationale will be applied to me sooner or later.I have bee reorted many times, I have had threads devoted to banning me, and so on. It is very sad. People wnt a circle jerk of a site instead of factual and civil discourse.

As far as Dexter claiming "Tagent" is "beating" me, it is not a contest. That is theprblem. Fools think someting is actually being provedby berating people. In terms of info, Tangenthas not got a single thing correct here except the site began as a blog after Harriri. If that is how Dexter or anyone else decides their viewpoints, that is al their business.

Me? I prefer facts, not inflamed hyperbole.

I post an article , verbatim, from an actual Arab site, and I am the devil. Whatever. I suggest people here grow up.
 
rachamim18 said:
I post an article , verbatim, from an actual Arab site, and I am the devil. Whatever. I suggest people here grow up.
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And I could post an article from some right wing fascist website and snigger about it... doesn't mean it wouldn't justifiably wind people up.

If you're trying to suggest you posted that up in all innocence I don't believe you.

I think you were trying to get the digs in on a day 2 of your dead soldiers had to be ID'ed by their DNA after being kept in a morgue for two years.
 
So what you're saying JHE, is that by not wanting this racist liar around spouting bullshit, we are in fact siding with those who seek to remove Israel from the face of the Earth?

If rachamin is the true face of Israel and the pro-Israel movement needs him around to speak for it, that's a cold condemnation of the country.

Can't we have someone who is actually able to debate without resorting to lies and bigotry?
 
PK: "And PK should post some article from a right wing site and have people sniger.": You mean like an article about a rich Jew who marries a dolphin? Yeah, that WOULD be nice. In any event AGAIN, this is an article is from an Arab media source. The source is neither right nor left wing.

"Is Rachamim suggesting he poses it in innocence.":I posted it because number one it is Mid-Eastern in nature,number two it is current, and number three it is lighter than he usual hate fest one sees here. Suprise, suprise hate reigns supreme and thank you for being part of that proof.

"PK thinks it has to do with Israel having to use dna to i.d. the 2 dead soldiers traded by Hezbollah.":That is merely how you think, not me I knew rthey were dead about a week after they ere taken, s didi most in the IDF.

I do not hate Aras any more than the Arabs at Libnan hate Arabs. I simply hoped to provide something different and itresting. It ispretty funny how many take it...and pretty sad.



Tangent: I suggest you pay attention a bit more. The piece on ANC? Already posted by another poster in another thread. I will save my response since I showed it for what it was , there.

Blustreak: Please let us know what in this thread you find to be a "lie." Pretty sad, as I said. Says alot more about you than it ever does about me, or anything having to do with Israel or Zionism.

Chainsaw: Bactrians do it for me. That double hump drives me batty!
 
Cool. Rach's going to get banned for being a racist cunt.

And then urban can get on with having some debate, without the paid disrupter.





Unless all the mods have gone stark staring mad simultaneously, that is.
 
rachamim18 said:
Nino: "Where is the political subject matter in the article Rachamim?": I believe it serves everybody when culturisms can be explored. After all, it is culture driving politics all the way. Furthermore, with the perhaps 85% insults, 14% extra serious subject matter dealing with death and/or destruction, it is good soemtimes to have lighter fare. IF it bothers you, go read about the dolphin fuc%er for "balance." Go read other threads (including soem of mine) for strictly political fare.

As for laughing about Arabs, I do not laugh at them. I laugh at the world. I will probably iniate a more serious thread this afternoon so enjoy.
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Sorry chum but this thread, like you, is racist.
 
JHE said:
2. Your talking of some Neo-Nazi is pretty bloody rich! I guess you know what Neo-Nazi views on Zionism are. If you are not sure, please check them out. It's very easy to do on the web. The Neo-Nazis and Islamists and (sadly) much of the British left are united in seeking the destruction of Israel. It's a disgusting alliance. I want no part of it.
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And yet your views on Muslims are often indistinguishable from the BNP. You're a low hypocrite.

There's a massive inconsistency in your worldview, JHE. You seem to be a person who is very concerned with fair and just treatment in the workplace, and you can give an eloquent description of the iniquities of capitalism in our society. But, when dealing with a situation such as Israel-Palestine, where one part of the population is subject to occupation and has massive inequalities forced on them by a heavily armed state, all that's good in your worldview evaporates. Not only that, your posts are replete with the kind of racially-tinged piss taking that would do the worst of the workplace bullies proud.
 
tangentlama said:
It is a lie to say that what we today call Arabs have originated from al-Hijaz.
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Absolutely, although it's a belief prevalent among a certain political mindset. :)
It is also a lie to say that all Arabic-speakers share the same religion.
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Not just a lie, but pure foolishness, given the many examples of relict Arabic-speaking Christians (to give but one example).
 
JHE said:
Yeah. Urban75 should be Zionist-free.
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Has anyone said that?
Nope.
It should be a happy gaggle of Israel-haters. Slamists, Trots and fake-Narchs all united in a very special hatred of the one little Jewish state.
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Most anti-Zionists don't hate Israel, they don't even hate the state of Israel (which is a different thing from the IDEAL of Israel).
That wickedly stolen little slither of the Middle East must be returned to its proper owners and put under Slamist management, inshallah.
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You really are a scabrous snide little cock-sucker, aren't you?
Show me any anti-Zionistbesides a small fringe of extremists who believe that and I'll apologise for stating the above truth, but we both know your motivation for saying such a thing, don't we? It's your irrational hatred of Islam.
Scum who take a different view should be banned. Many have been.
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Really?
The only people who tend to be banned are those who transgress the FAQs. Are you saying that the mods indiscriminately ban Zionists?
I'd love to see any proof of that.
Anti-Zionists, on the other hand, are free to spew their bile... It's ever so progressive.
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That statements says so much about you, it really does. :)
 
JHE said:
PK,

1. The Israeli who posted here whom I most remember was Strategist (and a few other names later). It was from reading exchanges between him and various rabid anti-Zionists that I learnt how it is round here. He was generally pretty courteous (in the face of great provocation). His opponents were anything but. I gather they repeatedly reported him for some alleged misdemeanour or other. The Powers That Be, generally pretty anti-Zionist, said that his being reported showed he was problem. He was banned. Isn't that generally how it works here?
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This'll be the same "pretty courteous" guy who got serially reported for threatening physical violence on other posters, then.
Hey kids, it's alright to threaten to kneecap someone, just so long as you're polite about it!
BTW, he's been banned 5 times now since '03 (that I'm aware of), and not generally for getting caught posting under a pseudonym, but for coming out with the same old crap.
 
Grandma Death said:
Utter lies.
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I can only think of three posters who've reported him in the last 4 years. One was the late, great Vimto, another was that weird Yanqui who used to post a link in just about every post they made, rather than elucidating an argument, and the third would be (IIRC) Moono.

Oh, and Red Jezza did do a thread (that's one, singular, Rachamim) about banning the tiresome blowhard.

Just so the record reflects the facts, like. :)
 
5u6ytjtkg

I remember the days when The Strategist would call out nosos for being gay...

*wipes tear of nostalgia*
 
Spion: "Rachamim DID say that the Holocaust was 'G-D's work'.": Spion, my truthfully stating that "basic Jewish Theology believes that everything, good and evil is G-D's work" is not my saying it. I understand you confuse individuals with entire cultures, as in blanket stereotypes but most do not view things like you. Perhaps you might try to provide context IF you insist on seeing life like that.

There have been many times, including this very thread where I have clearly stated that I am not in the least bit religious. If I am not religious why would you even dream I believed that? I am sure you know that "theology" is a term used to describe RELIGIOUS ideology.

Indeed the statement you refer to is entirely accurate but your claim is not only incorrect so far as it applies to me as an individual, but misleading in general since IF you bother to make the statement that Jews believe , in terms of religion, that every action is the will of G-D, you should also provide the context: ALL ACTS ARE THE WORK OF G-D. Your statement suggests that the Holocaust is viewed as a singular act and judged independantly of that.


I also wish to address soemthing you said to JHE. You tolf JHE that his/her "worldview" is "inconsistent." YOu point out that JHE believes in a Fair Workplace,etc., but views Muslims in a certain light. See, here is the problem. You believe that people need to be pigeonholed into labels. In other words, a "leftist" can never, ever subscribe to one or another view held by a so called "rightist."


This view of yours is non-sensical. People are individuals, no matter how much this irks Communists and other similar followers of non-sensical ideology. As individuals we have the ability to hold a myriad of outlooks and viewpoints. We do not need to label ourself "Tory" or ,"Labour,," we can hold views from both labels and even views from a third party as well.

Myself, I belong to a party, in Israel, but that is because we do not have Direct Elections and one must vote party line. In reality though, my views do not fall so neatly under one or another label. I think labels are divisive and contrary to human nature.

Ergo, why should JHE be any different? Because you believe in some of JHE's views but not others? I would, if I could, advise you to worry about yourself and your own outlook and let others handle theirs. Of course I am not a COMMUNIST so far be it from ,me to tell you ever how to look at things.


As for Israel being an "Occupier," I have asked you umpteenth times to prove your assertion. I will ask you again: How is Israel occupying the so called "WB" when the only nation to ever exist there was a Jewish Nation? Please answer.

AGAIN: THERE HAS NEVER BEEN AN ARAB NATION THERE, NOR HAS THERE EVER BEEN A NATION CALLED 'PALESTINE'."

"Israel is a heavily armed state.": SO WHAT? Might equals evil? That is a ridiculous point Spion. I offer the following: Israel is so heavily armed because of "Palestinian" violence.
 
Panda: "It is a lie, spread by those among a particular mindset, to claim Arabs originated in al Hejaz.": OK, please educate me. Where did they originate?

"It is a lie to say all Arabic speakers share the same religion.": I agree, that one came from Tangent's mind.

"Has anyone said U75 should be Zionist free?": Noooo, but when I first posted here, my very first post, I was reamed out simply for being Israeli. Ergo, most would never dream of posting on this site and indeed I have had much corrspondance to that effect. "Why do you bother?" "Why cast pearls?" "Why lower and debase yourself?" I will not repeat my primary and secondary rationale as I have expressed it enough in this forum but given the atmosphere on this site I think they should count themselves lucky anyone with an alternative viewpoint even bothers spending time here.

I have no doubt that the preceeding comment will elicit laughs and derision but it is the truth. The more perspectives the richer the experience but that would not occurr to most here and that is just sympotimatic of what is wrong here.

"Most anti-Zionists do not hate the State of Israel.": WHAT? That is, no offence, a ridiculous statement. Israel, as you MUST know, is a Zionist State. It retains this character partly due to the UN Mandate that it exist as such. ISRAEL IS THE PRODUCT OF ZIONISM. It is the realisation of Zionist ideology and to suggest anti-Zionists do not hate Israel is non-sensical at best.

What do they hate then? Well of course ZIONISM. Is Israel the product of this ideology? Of course. And?


"Show Panda anyone but a tiny demogrpahic among anti-Zionists who actually believe that Israel should be returned to Islamic Nationalists,etc..": That one is just too easy. HAMAS? al Akhsa? PRC? Hezbollah? I could name a total of 27 organisations just within Israel, Gaza, and the so called "WEst Bank," before starting on other Arab Nations. Then, after taking up a couple of more pages I could begin with non-Arab anti-Zionist organisations and so on. I also wish to remind you that your use of the word "coc%-suc&er" is atrocious in relation to another poster. Why do you find it so difficult to be civil?

"Is JHE saying that mods incorrectly ban Zionist posters?": I cannot of course speak for JHE. Speaking for myself I dcannot say either way. I CAN say that people holding Zionist views HAVE been called out more than others and this is a fact. For example, I am sure we will not see your use of "co^-suc&er" being admonished but let someone such as myself use it towards another poster and I can guarantee you that I will be banned. Go figure.


Panda: "Rachamim WAS reported and DID have a thread devoted to banning him.": Actually Panda it is much more on both counts but I do respect an attempt at factuality.

Chainsaw: "No, Rachamim will be banned for molesting camels.": NO! I want my ring back! You promised! Listen, that Bactrian was special. It was not about "molesting," it was a question of soul mates! Damn she could hump...
 
Palestine appears on any pre-WW2 map you care to peruse.

Just because the Jewish hired expensive lawyers doesn't mean the Arabs who have lived there for hundreds of years didnt have their farms vandalised, wells poisoned, crops stolen and houses squatted en mass.

Not all Israelis are cunts, just the ones who refuse to recognise pre 1967 borders.

:D
 
pk said:
Not all Israelis are cunts, just the ones who refuse to recognise pre 1967 borders.
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What about the Arabs and others who refused and refuse to accept that Israel should be allowed to live in security within its pre-67 borders? Are they 'cunts' too?
 
JHE said:
What about the Arabs and others who refused and refuse to accept that Israel should be allowed to live in security within its pre-67 borders? Are they 'cunts' too?
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They, like the Israelis need to learn that peace comes from compromise, not war.
 
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