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May drops plans for fox hunting vote

To be fair, from talking to a colleague of mine who shoots, there does seem to be two distinct types of shoot. A small group of elite/toff/gentry ones, and then a far greater number of “shooting enthusiast” ones. The former are either insanely expensive or simply not available to us plebs, the rest open to all with an atmosphere to match.

Yeah, my old man used to go on shoots, and they weren't a bunch of toffs, otherwise he wouldn't have.

And, he was firmly against fox hunting.
 
Never understood this. If the fox hunts are seemingly relatively ineffective at catching foxes, why the argument their about population control?

Personly I can't get too animated about the issue. Is it more humane to shoot a fox leaving it to die of multiple pellet wounds. But think the people who really enjoy are fucking weirdos and can't stand braying toffs obviously. Cue, not all those who take part are toffs. Just weirdos then. For some context, I can see the enjoyment in grouse shooting. Skill, aiming at something, guns, dinner. But enjoying watching dogs tare something apart is the mark of a wrongun.
If you have a fox problem and they can be a problem for people farming poultry, you hire a marksman with a rifle. End of problem. You don't use a shotgun.
 
You don't shoot moving things with rifles.

My old man used too.

The neighbours, who owned the field behind us, gave him permission to take out rabbits, so he did using rifles with telescopic sights from the bathroom window. Took out a fox once too, he was a good marksman.

Totally illegal, of course, but he loved his guns, and the dog loved the rabbits.
 
The fact that so many people miss a clean kill on a shoot is not a good thing. Wounded birds do not have a good death. If it were all just clean kills, it would be considerably less problematic.

The "kill my dinner" thing is somewhat overstated too. A lot of the shot birds never get eaten. Not that this massively bothers me, but it is worth noting.
 
My old man used too.

The neighbours, who owned the field behind us, gave him permission to take out rabbits, so he did using rifles with telescopic sights from the bathroom window. Took out a fox once too, he was a good marksman.

Totally illegal, of course, but he loved his guns, and the dog loved the rabbits.
Nothing illegal about shooting foxes or rabbits on private land with permission.
 
All of the killed ones do unless they're badly shot up. It's a revenue source for the landowners.
It's not a great revenue source, frankly. A pheasant that has been shot up and landed somewhere difficult to fetch is more trouble than it is worth. The revenue source is the large amount that has been charged to the punters, not the sale of birds.
 
If you are gonna hunt, do it properly :cool:

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mostly you wait for rabbits or deer to stop before shooting them. not that culling deer is much of a challenge might be if you hadn't just had loads of very extensive military training and a certain officer decided he fancied some time in Scotland with his relatives and needed an excuse. :D.
the hardest bit was crawling into acceptable range to own the kill:facepalm: it's a fucking athletic cow I can kill it from half a mile away but nooo I have to earn the kill you geriatric transvestite.:mad: sorry ghillie:facepalm:
with an L96 and the shmidt and bender sight its about as challenging as using a captive bolt gun in an abbatoir :hmm:
 
Nothing illegal about shooting foxes or rabbits on private land with permission.

Well he always told us not to mention it at school, the impression I got was the rifles he was using were only legal to use on licenced ranges, they weren't .22 jobbies.
 
It's not a great revenue source, frankly. A pheasant that has been shot up and landed somewhere difficult to fetch is more trouble than it is worth. The revenue source is the large amount that has been charged to the punters, not the sale of birds.
The pickers-up go out of their way to retrieve the birds; that’s their day. The shooters generally know where they drop too. Very few can’t be found by the dogs. On a 100 bird day I’d be surprised if more than 2 or 3 aren’t retrieved.

Where have you been getting all this stuff from? :confused:
 
how long before america has to legislate against people hunting with wrist mounted armed mini drones? One wrist for the screen, other wrist for a little charging station

Dragons den awaits me
yeh. watch for the new series, dragons' drone, which will be out in march. it follows much the same format as dragons' den but losing pitchers are on the business end of a hellfire missile fired from a reaper drone after they leave the building.
 
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