Matrix & Matrix Reloaded..

[krtek a houby]

I remember the animatrix stuff being pretty good.

Far, far better than the movie sequels.

 

[skyscraper101]

*ugh*

The Grand Speech and technohippytrancerave scene, inter-cut with Keeenooo and spanner-chick making dry, scratchy, robot love is probably one of the greatest atrocities ever committed to film.

Like I said 'on the most part'

The neo/trinity making love scene and the great speech/cave rave* was a bit self indulgent sure. But Zion itself was a part of the film they didn't at least go way overboard on with stupid baddies and OTT fight scenes accompanied by a technometal soundtrack.

*the Fluke track they used was good though

 

[weltweit]

I enjoyed reloaded, last night.

It introduced Zion as a new thing and .. well I enjoyed it.

 

[starfish]

The Matrix was a pretty good film. Ive seen both sequels but am buggered if i could remember anything from them though.

 

[Stigmata]

*ugh*

The Grand Speech and technohippytrancerave scene, inter-cut with Keeenooo and spanner-chick making dry, scratchy, robot love is probably one of the greatest atrocities ever committed to film.

Who knew all the world's best computer hackers were rastas and maoris?

 

[The Groke]

urk

 

[The Groke]

Who knew all the world's best computer hackers were rastas and maoris?

zombie goasts leave this place

 

[Stigmata]

zombie goasts leave this place

 

[Balbi]

Who knew all the world's best computer hackers were rastas and maoris?

Maelcum is a rude bwoy, and a righteous tug pilot

 

[Clint Iguana]

Second two films are not as good as the first but still piss all over a lot of other science fiction movies.

I particulalry like the fact that you can watch them again and spot things that you did not pick up on the first time and have a better understanding of the film. Like the fact that it is the seventh version of the matrx.

I love the whole thing, have the 9 disc special edition. And i can still watch and enjoy and spot new things.

 

[ATOMIC SUPLEX]

I particulalry like the fact that you can watch them again and spot things that you did not pick up on the first time and have a better understanding of the film. Like the fact that it is the seventh version of the matrx.

Not hard to spot is it? it's in the dialogue.

 

[Silva]

Animatrix was really good at expanding the universe of the movie. Then, the sequels killed the franchise for me. I might be arsed to wath the first again, but won't go anywhere near the sequels again.

 

[Stigmata]

I suppose it's a bad sign when the whole cinema laughs during the big death scene in the final film.

 

[The Octagon]

Second two films are not as good as the first but still piss all over a lot of other science fiction movies.

I particulalry like the fact that you can watch them again and spot things that you did not pick up on the first time and have a better understanding of the film. Like the fact that it is the seventh version of the matrx.

I love the whole thing, have the 9 disc special edition. And i can still watch and enjoy and spot new things.

Not hard to spot is it? it's in the dialogue.

I thought it was the 6th version?

The Architect even says to Neo (regarding Zion) "This will be the 6th time we have destroyed it, and we are getting very proficient at it".

 

[Clint Iguana]

I thought it was the 6th version?

The Architect even says to Neo (regarding Zion) "This will be the 6th time we have destroyed it, and we are getting very proficient at it".

Maybe 6, have not watched it for a while..... but he says that towards the end, if you watch from the beginning with that knowledge, all sorts of other things which did not make sense first time around suddenly become clear.

 

[Clint Iguana]

Not hard to spot is it? it's in the dialogue.

Only if you have seen the end first

 

[ATOMIC SUPLEX]

Maybe 6, have not watched it for a while..... but he says that towards the end, if you watch from the beginning with that knowledge, all sorts of other things which did not make sense first time around suddenly become clear.

It's all nonsense jibber jabber though, admit it.

 

[stupid dogbot]

It's all nonsense jibber jabber though, admit it.

Exactly.

There were two specific bits in the 2nd one - the conversation with the frenchman in the restaurant and the speech by the architect - which must be two of the single most ridiculous pieces of twaddle I've ever heard in a movie.

I've been more entertained in planning meetings.

 

[Clint Iguana]

It's all nonsense jibber jabber though, admit it.

That's because you dont understand it!

Unfair, maybe you do, but just dont like that sort of thing, I dont know.

I am, to paraphrase Mark E Smith, a layman, i am not interested in how technically proficient it is, or how clever the plot is, i am just interested in if i enjoyed it. I do enjoy these films and no ammount of persuasion will change my opinion. I happen to think the plot is quite clever in places (even though there are one or two cheesy bits).

Surely all science fiction is "nonsense jibber jabber" to lesser or greater extents. What is wrong with that? Or should we all stick with 'To kill a mocking bird' or 'All the Presidents men'.

Apocalypse now, Pulp Ficton, No country for old men, the italian job, one flew over the cuckoos nest, ... all "nonsense jibber jabber", i still like them.

for "nonsense jibber jabber"... read escapism.

 

[Clint Iguana]

Exactly.

There were two specific bits in the 2nd one - the conversation with the frenchman in the restaurant and the speech by the architect - which must be two of the single most ridiculous pieces of twaddle I've ever heard in a movie.

I've been more entertained in planning meetings.

No imagination

 

[DotCommunist]

That's because you dont understand it!

Unfair, maybe you do, but just dont like that sort of thing, I dont know.

I am, to paraphrase Mark E Smith, a layman, i am not interested in how technically proficient it is, or how clever the plot is, i am just interested in if i enjoyed it. I do enjoy these films and no ammount of persuasion will change my opinion. I happen to think the plot is quite clever in places (even though there are one or two cheesy bits).

Surely all science fiction is "nonsense jibber jabber" to lesser or greater extents. What is wrong with that? Or should we all stick with 'To kill a mocking bird' or 'All the Presidents men'.

Apocalypse now, Pulp Ficton, No country for old men, the italian job, one flew over the cuckoos nest, ... all "nonsense jibber jabber", i still like them.

for "nonsense jibber jabber"... read escapism.

wash your mouth out with carbolic soap

 

[Santino]

That's because you dont understand it!

Unfair, maybe you do, but just dont like that sort of thing, I dont know.

I am, to paraphrase Mark E Smith, a layman, i am not interested in how technically proficient it is, or how clever the plot is, i am just interested in if i enjoyed it. I do enjoy these films and no ammount of persuasion will change my opinion. I happen to think the plot is quite clever in places (even though there are one or two cheesy bits).

Surely all science fiction is "nonsense jibber jabber" to lesser or greater extents. What is wrong with that? Or should we all stick with 'To kill a mocking bird' or 'All the Presidents men'.

Apocalypse now, Pulp Ficton, No country for old men, the italian job, one flew over the cuckoos nest, ... all "nonsense jibber jabber", i still like them.

for "nonsense jibber jabber"... read escapism.

There's a difference between, on the one hand, a well-plotted, internally consistent story that depends on some fictional conceit or breaking the laws of physics and, on the other hand, a load of tosh that doesn't even stick to its own rules and never really explains why a lot of shit happens.

 

[ATOMIC SUPLEX]

That's because you dont understand it!

Unfair, maybe you do, but just dont like that sort of thing, I dont know.

I am, to paraphrase Mark E Smith, a layman, i am not interested in how technically proficient it is, or how clever the plot is, i am just interested in if i enjoyed it. I do enjoy these films and no ammount of persuasion will change my opinion. I happen to think the plot is quite clever in places (even though there are one or two cheesy bits).

Surely all science fiction is "nonsense jibber jabber" to lesser or greater extents. What is wrong with that? Or should we all stick with 'To kill a mocking bird' or 'All the Presidents men'.

Apocalypse now, Pulp Ficton, No country for old men, the italian job, one flew over the cuckoos nest, ... all "nonsense jibber jabber", i still like them.

for "nonsense jibber jabber"... read escapism.

Shut up. It's just rubbish and everyone in the world knows it. The first film is great but no manner of bonkers computer graphics made the second and third film even slightly entertaining.

Apocalypse now, Pulp Ficton, No country for old men, the italian job, one flew over the cuckoos nest. They are all good films, reloaded and the other one are shit films. Really shit films. I love escapism and even the matrix set up (like I said the first film is great). How can you sit there and defend such a load of steaming crap and dare to suggest that I say it is full of jibber jabber simply because I don't understand it.

Uh, how insulting. Emo.

 

[DotCommunist]

It started with neo being 'The One' then onto 'The Keymaker' 'The Architect' etc.

beware of narratives overladen with characters who go only by some title that defines the whole character.

 

[stupid dogbot]

No imagination

 

[Clint Iguana]

Shut up. It's just rubbish and everyone in the world knows it. The first film is great but no manner of bonkers computer graphics made the second and third film even slightly entertaining.

Apocalypse now, Pulp Ficton, No country for old men, the italian job, one flew over the cuckoos nest. They are all good films, reloaded and the other one are shit films. Really shit films. I love escapism and even the matrix set up (like I said the first film is great). How can you sit there and defend such a load of steaming crap and dare to suggest that I say it is full of jibber jabber simply because I don't understand it.

Uh, how insulting. Emo.

Goth

Don't be too upset. Even Mark kermode gets it wrong now and again.

no seriously... i enjoyed them... not as much as the first, but i enjoyed them.

Surely the main objective of a film is to entertain. If it challenges intellectually or stimulates in some other way... bonus. But if it does not, i can still be entertained.

I can think of some really intellectual and clever films that are very worthy, but they have bored me shitless.

 

[ATOMIC SUPLEX]

Surely the main objective of a film is to entertain. If it challenges intellectually or stimulates in some other way... bonus. But if it does not, i can still be entertained.

I.

Indeed. However the 2 sequels did not entertain me and were not certainly not in the slightest bit cerebral or intellectual in any way.

 

[Clint Iguana]

Indeed. However the 2 sequels did not entertain me and were not certainly not in the slightest bit cerebral or intellectual in any way.

Does it make me a lesser person becasue i did enjoy them?

Anyway..... i am going to watch them again tonight now just to make sure i was entertained.

 

[Stigmata]

The second and third films have that actor who should play Obama when they make a film about him.

 

[T & P]

Isn't supposed to be a 'curse' on the film franchise as well?

Can't remember all the particulars but it includes the death of the actress who played the Oracle in the original film, plus various other mishaps and accidents.