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Math Rock - what the flip is it

No fucking way are Dillinger Escape Plan or Jehu math rock.

Not... precise enough? I dunno, they're often associated, but I don't really think of them as that, either. It's the time sigs and so on.

Anyway, as we all know, DLJ invented emo. Ahem. There's an article somewhere on the 'net that says that, so it must be true. Probably written by JR... :D

They're a post-punk/hardcore band to me, but hey, genres are great, aren't they...
 
if you rate music the correct fashion, where 10 is AC/DC and 9 to 0 is everything else in descending order of how much like AC/DC it is - then math rock is basically 0.
 
What did peeps in Bitch Magnet go on to do ...? Brain is telling me they became someone else ... :confused:

all over the shop, David Grubbs especially - Gastr Del Sol, lots of arty stuff. Then suddenly Jim O Rourke, Tortoise and Will Oldham get involved. And Dave Pajo ended up in Stereolab and and and
 
if you rate music the correct fashion, where 10 is AC/DC and 9 to 0 is everything else in descending order of how much like AC/DC it is - then math rock is basically 0.

well it depends if you include the bands that AREN'T math rock as math rock. If math rock includes Bastro and Drive Like Jehu, it's a good 8.
 
No, of course, sorry, you're right. The fact that I listened to all this stuff when it came out, saw the bands, bought the records, read the interviews, counts for nothing.

Sorry to intrude, as you were :D

I interpret DEP as math rock/metal, and Drive Like Jehu (the guitaring at least) as mathrock, and I'm certainly not alone.
 
Well I'm certainly not going to lose any sleep over it, but they certainly weren't considered math rock by any of the many people I knew who liked them.
 
I'm a bit young to have been into Drive Like Jehu when they were around, so perhaps it's only a label that was applied to them with hindsight.
 
I interpret DEP as math rock/metal, and Drive Like Jehu (the guitaring at least) as mathrock, and I'm certainly not alone.

As I said, there's people out there who say DLJ invented Emo, so...

But if you like the music, it doesn't really matter what labels people use, does it?
 
As I said, there's people out there who say DLJ invented Emo, so...

But if you like the music, it doesn't really matter what labels people use, does it?

No, you're quite right, it doesn't.



Anyway, Embrace, Rites Of Spring, Moss Icon and Policy Of Three were all about before DLJ.
 
math rock - much messing about with time signatures, often asymmetrical, creates tension (not always pleasurable imo) between urge to rock out and intellectual override. feels like it's classical music expressed in a popular music idiom featuring amplified (or occasionally acoustic) guitars and drums. tends not to use overdubs or other studio trickery. often instrumental. very dry, including emotionally. interesting to note how its musical intellection somehow refers to emotion obliquely - often a problem/feature of self-consciously musical music, thought somewhat tempered here by the use of popular music idiom & urge to rock out.



love the way that from 3 minutes on it's all based around 1 note. i've got the cd version of this and the live performance is pretty much note for note exactly the same, as i would expect with math rock.


:D


there's quite a few videos from a remarkable outfit active around 2000/2001 called oxes on youtube but the sound quality on them seems to be pretty dire. impressive performances though.
 
I've never even heard of mathrock. Although, when I was at school, my classmates and me wrote a maths song:

Maths, glorious maths!
Just how do they do it?
Surds, pie charts and graphs!
There's just so much to it!
Thank goodness it's maths today,
Start spreading the word,
It's maths, glorious maths, magical maths,
Glor-i-ous maaaaaths!

That one used to really get on our teacher's nerves :D
 
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