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Match Point

Saw a preview of the new Woody Allen 'Match Point' last night. Strange film, very 'un-Woody Allen', not least for being set in London. Sort of a thriller focussing on luck, class and infidelity. Deeply misanthropic, but compelling with an interesting twist at the end. Solid enough performances, though is it just me who finds Jonathan Rhys-Myers deeply iritating?
 
militant atheist said:
though is it just me who finds Jonathan Rhys-Myers deeply iritating?

No - although he was playing a character who I would find deeply irritating ie working class ruthless social climber.

I enjoyed the film though.
 
I heard it was shit so I'll be giving it a miss.

Oh and can someone explain to me why its called match point? I half-watched the trailer and couldn't see any Wimbledon or Tennis references.
 
Allen hasn't made a good film for years but I'll watch it at some point if only for the lovely Scarlet Johansen.
 
It got mostly great reviews in the US and mostly bad ones over here. I think the British are getting into a huff that this portrait of London and the British upper class by an American writer/director isn't 100% accurate. It's probably news to them that Allen's Manhattan has always been a similarly imaginary place. The British press also don't seem to get that much of the film is a black comedy rather than straightforward drama and that much of it is tongue in cheek.

I enjoyed it. It's a piece of solid film making. Allen knows how to use close ups and how to edit and pace a scene and in the way he uses his actors and locations it's clear that he understands old style Hollywood glamour. Many a hack who makes a thriller these days gets compared to Hitchcock, but Allen showes a flair for how to make a glossily misanthropic thriller that at times really did reminded me of the master of suspense. Match Point also reminded me of Patricia Highsmith (Hitchcock was first to adapt her with Strangers on a Train) and this often catches the feel of The Talented Mr. Ripley much more closely than the miscast Anthony Mingella version ever did.

I'm still not convinced that Jonathan Rhys-Meyers can act, but he is fine here and the way he and Scarlett Johansson look like twins is a great visual clue to the narcissistic nature of his character. Johansson is sexy and seductive as hell, but it's a shame how one dimensional her character becomes in the second half. Emily Mortimer is fantastic and often very funny. As a rich girl for whom everything has always gone swimmingly, she doesn't quite have the capacity to sense when she's in the presence of evil.

Btw, should you want to check this out try and avoid any trailers. I can't believe how much the UK TV trailer gives away about the plot.
 
I have not seen Match Point yet but I'd like to say that it is very nice to see someone bring up and comment on Allen's camera skill. There is a lot of dialogue in his films and many reviews dwell on the script and story aspect while it is obvious that not only Allen has a very good grasp of film history (and makes constant visual references) but that he also is an intelligent (cinema) photographer.

I am not very keen on Scarlet Johansson but we'll see.
 
Saw it on Saturday night. I'm not that well-acquainted with Woody Allen's stuff and thought it was OK - not great, but entertaining enough. My partner, who's a Woody Allen fan, didn't like it much.

<possible spoiler>It is very much a film of two halves - I saw the first bit as a well-played comedy of manners (the ordinary guy breaking into the upper-upper middle class family) and the latter half as a thriller - I must admit, the scenes in the police station did make me think of 'The Bill'! :eek:

The fact that neither of us can abide James Nesbitt didn't help...... :D

All in all, worth seeing, but even this early on I can say it won't be anyone's film of the year......
 
I saw it two nights ago. During the end credits the guy sitting two seats away leaned across and asked me what I thought. He then said he found it "unintentionally funny".

I don't understand how someone could fail to see that the humour was intentional. Perhaps it takes a non-British person who has lived in the UK to understand the satire.

Woody Allen's films remind me sometimes of what a very perceptive person once said of history, that it happens twice: the first time as a tragedy, the second time as a farce.

I agree about what was said above regarding the similarities to Hitchcock. Perhaps Match Point is a Hitchcock "farce". This comparison becomes even more meaningful when thinking that Hitchcock was a British director who went to Hollywood, and Match Point is an American film about the British.
 
I saw this last night and thought it was one of the worst films I've ever seen. The dialogue was appalling, the plot clunky and unconvincing, the police scenes laughably unrealistic and Jonathan Rhys Meyers was absolutely terrible. The only redeeming features were Scarlett Johanssen, who lights up the screen but who had to cope with an underwritten character, and Emily Mortimer, who was very good as the nice but annoying posh girl.

A couple of people left half-way through, and I kind of wished I'd joined them, tbh.

I think Woody Allen should stop making films.
 
Originally Match Point was going to be set in Manhattan, like all of Allen's other films. Then money became available in Europe and he decided to shoot it over here. It was never supposed to be about the British as such.
 
poului said:
Nope, just seemed like a neatly entertaining story that used London as a backdrop to me.

I'd agree with this, apart from the "neatly entertaining" part -- it really was the biggest pile of arse I've seen in a long time. A shame, as I was a fan of Woody Allen films.
 
Reno said:
Originally Match Point was going to be set in Manhattan, like all of Allen's other films. Then money became available in Europe and he decided to shoot it over here. It was never supposed to be about the British as such.

It is partly about class, though, no? In the sense that it's about money and privilege and being an outsider.

Still crap though.
 
Ms T said:
It is partly about class, though, no? In the sense that it's about money and privilege and being an outsider.

Still crap though.

I can see why people wouldn't like Match Point, but Woody Allen's films have dealt with class and snobbery at least since Annie Hall. They are qualities the British don't have a monopoly on.
 
Reno said:
I can see why people wouldn't like Match Point, but Woody Allen's films have dealt with class and snobbery at least since Annie Hall. They are qualities the British don't have a monopoly on.

True, but he's chosen a particularly cliched view of British life in this film, which just doesn't ring true. Maybe that's the case with his Manhattan-based work as well -- as a Brit I wouldn't necessarily know...
 
Randon Fact - I used to work in Bond st(Cartier) & our offices overlooked the crew when they were filming outside last summer, I hung out of the 3rd floor kitchen window for near 2 hours watching...........and got to hear Woody Allen actually say "Cut" :cool:
 
Just about recovered from Mr Pimms o’clock (Scene Two) in time for James 'hairy hands' Nesbitt to send me into apoplexy - just a bump, to remind myself to post summut tomorrow.

Curious piece, wasn't it?
 
Strangers on a Train was on BBC2 this afternoon. I had forgotten about the tennis game sequence - to anyone who watched it the connection with Match Point and the shot of the tennis ball on the net would have become apparent. Credit due to Reno for first mentioning this particular Hitchcock film.

By the way, a completely irrelevant question, does anyone remember which film copies the scene where the cigarette lighter falls down the street drain? I know I've seen it somewhere else.
 
Belatedly . . .

Couldn’t get as excited (or distracted, or even patronising) as some over the authenticity of the language. Of course WA isn’t going to speak ‘London’ like a native; the writer writes and someone is recruited (as was, say, Julian Fellowes for Altman) to ‘dialect it’ – WA would be wholly reliant on whoever was recruited in that role.

So, to the film; the BBC approach WA, he says yep, and so we have a film written and directed by WA that could have played anywhere, but is set variously around London, and deals with themes not unfamiliar to WA regulars - it’s his usual 6-ish hander, lots of interiors with upper-income types holding drinks, small talking and weaving subtext.

It seemed to have three sections; the set-up, the transformation and the thriller-with-a-twist; the conventional story about a social-climber and who he meets worked well enough. Daughter’s infatuation was fine, even if Mother and Father’s involvement seemed a little mechanical.

I particularly liked the final third though, even if it felt at times like Woody was throwing kitchen sinks and the plumbing at the screen The ghosts of the dead must have been Dostoesvsky references (‘Crime and Punishment’ ?), there were issues of morality, conscience and remorse – or lack of it in this case, there were surely references to Hitch, plus luck, fate existentialism and abstraction. There was even a smattering of wry humour.

But . . . the transformation scenes seemed to drag. Perhaps that’s harsh, it was probably me. Sure, WA had some ground to cover: The irresistible American Goddess became a pregnant shop assistant without means; a loose cannon ranting on the pavement outside his marital home. Contemporaneously, wifey metamorphosis’s from a demanding, boorish and broody nag, to a loving, caring frightfully rich mother-to-be.

Faced with this changing landscape, our hero develops some character (literally) and, during a three-week non-holiday, decides a U-turn (away from Ms America) is in his best interests – taking, all in all, not a few scenes. It was somewhere amongst that lot that my attention drifted.

Enjoyed the contrasts; amorality to abject immorality, from being driven by filthy lust to be driven by filthy lucre, from a level-headed gad to a cold-blooded double/treble-murderer (killing a kindly old lady as well as his lover, and his baby), the time-dependent plot, even the Detective Duo - hints of Hitchcock-esque humour, even. Anyway, all good knockabout stuff, especially the cynical, sentimental-free ending. I’d see it again in order to dig deeper – if it wasn’t for that middle section.

It’ll stand up well in Film Class.



Won't it ?
 
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