Discussion in 'Brixton' started by editor, Nov 25, 2014.
It's not even active at night is it? I used to eat my JB's there on the way home.
Not really active after dark much, a bit on the rare warmer nights but that's about it. Partly though that's because of a lack of light. It will be better lit at night after they build their yuppie plaza... If they do...
Sounds like you are on the case FOSS - excellent work.
Is there a fighting fund? Would be happy to donate.
Did the skate park get scheduled as a community asset?
Could "active elderly" simply mean over 50s housing? (although I know a few over fifties who may be a bit unhappy about this generic description). Irrespective of the specifics, older people and the noise of skateboards crashing around rarely mix well.
I think you do them a disservice tbh. For a start a modern triple glazed flat will keep that noise out almost completely, but I also don't think it's fair to say 'older' people are less tolerant of noise than, say, someone studying, or parents of your children.
Acknowledged, but you'll only get triple glazing where the pre-planning noise reports have identified a noise nuisance and the planning department specify performance as a condition, which basically is only if you live over a dual carriageway. A 24 hour adjusted survey will show no discernable noise from the skatepark. It will come down to complaints over intimidation, drug use etc.; things difficult to pin down but which will require police response and which in turn will discourage use.
We've got a freshly update shop with very limited FoSS t-shirts in many colours, but if you want just to donate that would be very welcome too, paypal address is the same as our email: email@example.com
Our shop is here: http://friendsofstockwellskatepark.bigcartel.com/
Hope it's alright posting that here.
It'd be the ultimate disgrace if it goes. It has always seemed a great place and a chilled out one at that. You'd get more noise & 'trouble' out of a tea room than you would there.
If you manage to finish that piece for Buzz, we can add a plug for the t-shirts at the bottom.
Sweet. I'm on it boss!
Genuine question: who currently lives at Thrayle House, and where will they live once the new development is built? Council tenants?
Nobody lives there now they all got moved on. I've really no idea what's to become if the ex-residents. I've not seen any promises of rehousing here like they keep mentioning regards Cressingham. There are 70 odd flats in Thrayle now. Pretty sure some were in private ownership at least at some point, I saw titles mentioning the sale of one of them. I get the impression they moved most of the longer term tenants a while ago and that it was mostly short term tenants left t the end of it but I could be wrong. There were a couple if not more squats right at the end too If I'm not mistaken, I saw someone on twitter mentioning accompanying police to an eviction there. It was that CoE guy that writes in the Guardian... I'm seeing someone later who'll know much better about this. They're questions we raised but never got answered.
Planning is back on the table, validated Nov 17th, notices posted Dec 3rd, objection due just a week today.
Basically the plans are the same but with bigger buildings now.
We're currently getting mugged off at every turn.
Details here, more to follow:
15/04500/FUL | Redevelopment of Thrayle House for residential-led mixed use development up to 20 storeys, comprising 177 homes (Class C3), and 1,358 sq m of flexible retail (Class A1 and A2) and community space (Class D1). | Thrayle House Benedict Road London SW9 0XU
Please comment and keep any objections relevant to your position... thanks
Some key facts:
affordable units: 81, total ~5,500m²
private units: 96, total 6,000m²
tenures break down like this:
Social: 16x1bed, 17x2bed, 2x3bed, 6x4bed = 41 units
Active Elderly (1 or 2 bed): 40 units (I don't know what this means)
Market: 58x1bed, 29x2bed = 87 units
Active elderly - old folks without nurses basically. Whether that counts as social or not I don't know. It would be interesting to know as the Community Interest Levy payment that the developers have to pay Lambeth is based of the floor area of residential buildings but we don't know what that is. That CiL money is promised to the skatepark. Thanks for all the objections so far.
Bit confused here. Is this actual social - as in council tenancy rates - or the permanently vague 'affordable'?
Does anyone fancy writing a piece for Buzz about this?
Page 19 i think
listing as affordable, private and active elderly
So more of the same unaffordable bollocks then.
It would seem so.
The developer is a HA, and all ex-residents are eligible to return on the same council tenancy. The planning statement expllicitly says the intention is to provide social housing for Lambeth's list. Pitchforks on standby, but this one looks much better than most.
No it doesn't.
Planning statement, page 10 (11 of the PDF)
That accounts for all 41 Affordable units as listed on page 19 (23 of the PDF) of the Design Statement. 16x 1bed, 17x2bed, 4 houses and 4 duplexes.
The Active Elderly Affordable units are ambiguous to me. Quite what they're for I don't understand - Council or HA or subsidised market rent? I don't know. Someone with more experience of the HA sector needs to weigh in here.
I wonder what happens if the original residents don't return.
Older people are not subject to the benefit caps. So basically you can charge a lot knowing it will be paid through benefits if needed.
Social rent is not the same as Council target rent. If existing households keep there right to social rent the effect could be same as at Guiness Trust. With new tenants paying the higher "affordable" rent.
sorry, got to ask, what's JB?
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