nino_savatte
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What political group or party do you belong to, treelover? You always seem to spend a great deal of your time sniping at "Trots" and the SWP. No one else seems to rile you as much as they do...not even the Tories.
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cockneyrebel
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Littlejohn
Still if he's criticising the SWP and the STWC then who cares? Give the man a pat of the back.
I'm sure Nick Griffin would like to "expose" the SWP and the STWC as well, maybe you could get in touch and suggest a documentary?
Still if he's criticising the SWP and the STWC then who cares? Give the man a pat of the back.
I'm sure Nick Griffin would like to "expose" the SWP and the STWC as well, maybe you could get in touch and suggest a documentary?
nino_savatte
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I don't know if anyone has noticed this, but the majority of documentaries on C4 these days tend to be produced and presented by Tories or hacks writing for Tory journals.
Littlejohn now joins the likes of Peter Oborne (The Spectator) and Jane Moore (The Sun) as the latest reactionary scumbag to produce for C4. Has there been a change of management at C4?
Littlejohn now joins the likes of Peter Oborne (The Spectator) and Jane Moore (The Sun) as the latest reactionary scumbag to produce for C4. Has there been a change of management at C4?
poster342002
PROPER leftwing socialist
I can't speak for treelover, but I get more pissed off with the trots than the tories because the trots are supposed to be on our side, but so many of their actions seem to be at odds with that notion (see many threads passim).nino_savatte said:
You might as well ask why someone is more pissed of with a crap Doctor than they are with the illness that their crap Dr isn't curing.
cockneyrebel
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Littlejohn again:
Still it's a good thing he's made an attack on the SWP.
Still it's a good thing he's made an attack on the SWP.
nino_savatte
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poster342002 said:
What I tend to find is that the word "Trot" is used as a blanket term of abuse to any poster who doesn't follow the party line on this forum. The other issue that I have is that many of you seem to think that the only Trotskyites are those persons who are members of the SWP.
You lot spend more time locked in petty sectarian point-scoring than doing owt else.
nino_savatte
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Wtf are you talking about? "Guilt by association racism radar"? You've got more in common with trees than you realise, pal.
cockneyrebel
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What are you talking about? Littlejohn is a low life piece of shit who mocked the genocide in Rwanda and the murdered women in Ipswich.
It's not me saying that it's a "good thing" that he's supposedly exposing the SWP and STWC. My point is that this bloke is little better than Griffin. Would you say it was a good thing if Griffin was doing an "expose" on the SWP and STWC.
lewislewis
Lumumba Cymru
TopCat said:
Valid point.
cockneyrebel said:
Littlejohn concerned about racism? I think not!
BNP members on St*rmflex are often given to discuss whether Littlejohn is a closet supporter of theirs.
The SWP are seen as a threat to the establishment, hence the space given to the racist Tory Littlejohn to attack us on Ch4. Strange bedfellows some opponents of the SWP are lining up to alongside.
You can bet that it (Littlejohn) will quote some genuine anti-semites and forget to make clear that they have nothing to do with the left, Respect or the StWC. SWP founded by a Jew, many Jewish members - this attack won't stick. The mud slingers will just end up with dirty hands.
KeyboardJockey
Clowns to the Left of me
treelover said:
As much as I hate Littledick I do hope he sticks the boot into the swappies and their fundie mates. Could be the death of Respect with any luck.
butchersapron
Bring back hanging
Groucho said:
Need i quote more?
cockneyrebel
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And what makes it even more strange is that they are having a go at the SWP for having strange bedfellows and then say that it's a good thing that a right winger who laughs about genocide is attacking the SWP.
cockneyrebel
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Well you've got a point there. Groucho, in all seriousness, do you really think that the establishment sees the SWP as a threat?
cockneyrebel
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Yeah jump in bed with Littlejohn as long as he's sticking it to the SWP......
As said, how far down this route would you go. If Griffin did an "expose" on the SWP would you be happy about that?
KeyboardJockey
Clowns to the Left of me
cockneyrebel said:
I think a lot of opponents of the swappies are just pleased that at last the dodgyness of the swaps is at last getting an airing on the mainstream media. I think its a crying shame that this documentary wasn't being done by someone with much more credibility such as Paxman.
Littledick is scum but at least the issues around the swaps and their racist offshoot Respect are being put infront of the public.
KeyboardJockey
Clowns to the Left of me
cockneyrebel said:
See my post above
nino_savatte
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KeyboardJockey said:
Well, if you think Littlejohn is going to blow the lid off something - forget it. I expect the usual half-baked ideas and myopic analysis that is typical of a barking mad right winger and a Tory mouthpiece.
I'm disappointed to see that you've given Littledick so much latitude.
cockneyrebel said:
There's a real prospect of united public sector strikes because left-wing activists in unions are pushing for it. The leaderships of NUT, UNISON, UCU, CWU and PCS are discussing potential united action with varying degrees of enthusiasm. Such action could begin a process of turning around the era of defeats the organised working class has suffered, and could push Brown's domestic neo-liberal agenda off course.
The StWC has mobilised millions on to the streets. The war, and principally opposition to it, has caused a political crisis that forced the Prime Minister to resign.
The beginnings of a potentially serious electoral challenge to the establishment parties from the left as represented by Respect is an initiative supporters of the estblishment would want to nip in the bud.
Since the SWP are among the most commited and organised activists in all of these arenas, yes, I do think there are those in the establishment who are starting to worry.
butchersapron
Bring back hanging
Groucho said:
Need i quote more again?
cockneyrebel
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I don't mean this a mean but I think you have got your heads in the clouds if you seriously think that the establishment see the SWP as a genuine threat. But fair enough.
But it says it all that people on here think it's a good thing that someone like Littlejohn is being given a chance to attack the left on mainstream TV. What a bubble world some people live in.
But it says it all that people on here think it's a good thing that someone like Littlejohn is being given a chance to attack the left on mainstream TV. What a bubble world some people live in.
nino_savatte
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If the gov't "see" the SWP as a threat (I find it hard to type this without rolling about with laughter), then one wonders how they see the WI. 
cockneyrebel
New Member
Are you serious? The leaderships of the NUT and UNISON are actively underminding any fightback and will probably get away with it as well.
Also the SWPs antics in the NUT of late have hardly been inspring to say the least........
RESPECT being a serious electoral challenge? Leaving aside the fact that is warmed up left reformism it is nowhere near becoming a serious electoral force and shows no signs of doing so.
Nigel Irritable
Five, Ten, Fifteen Years
Groucho said:
The SWP have little or nothing to do with this, given that they have little or no influence in these unions.
Groucho said:
Most recently the StWC was busy mobilising two thousand people for a national demonstration. The anti-war movement was at one state a real, if very limited, political factor. It may be so again. But it isn't now, which makes the idea that the government are just starting to worry about it a little dubious.
Groucho said:
Utter delusion.
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