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Mars: there *is* ice!

Mars: there *is* ice!

So what?

Doesn't mean anything for those who don't understand why this is an exiting discovery.

Means everything imaginable for the individual person able to be interested in looking beyond what keeps them occupied in daily life on earth, this day, this moment. And every single one of them has other interests and an other way to get thrilled about this.
Don't you think it could be an enrichment of your life to discover why? In my view we don't live to merely "exist".

salaam.
 
I will wait till they get the material onto the instruments before being certain that that is water ice.
Tend to agree with this. I'm sure they know what they're talking about an' that and it'll be to do with air pressure or summat, but sublimation is not a process I associate with water ice at all.
 
Tend to agree with this. I'm sure they know what they're talking about an' that and it'll be to do with air pressure or summat, but sublimation is not a process I associate with water ice at all.

Freeze drying occurs in your freezer. :)
 
Interesting, but I'm more interested in finding out the real reason why it is interesting or the USA.
While everything considering "exploration of space" is extremely interesting for both scientist and non speicilists who wonder 'what is out there" I doubt polluting, destructive, Corporate Capitalism driven US interests are beneficial for Space.

salaam./
The answer to your question is the state of the research into the origin of life debate.

Yes it's that important.
 
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Doesn't mean anything for those who don't understand why this is an exiting discovery.

Means everything imaginable for the individual person able to be interested in looking beyond what keeps them occupied in daily life on earth, this day, this moment. And every single one of them has other interests and an other way to get thrilled about this.
Don't you think it could be an enrichment of your life to discover why? In my view we don't live to merely "exist".

salaam.

I'm confused about what finding water on mars is all about. I doubt human life originated from mars. And given the atmosphere I doubt it holds out any future existence for human life. So?
 
I think you mean: Origin of life after the possibilities for these elements to become origin of life came into existence.

salaam.
Well I'm speaking from the history of origin science and the debate between creationist and naturalists. In modern times the simplified version has gone something like this:

Young Earth theory was adopted by christians about 200 years before Origin of Species. Origins was great but didn't explain the origin of life. .... The Big Bang theory was adopted by naturalists and rejected by creationists. .... time passes .... Some creationists begin to reject young earth theory. They then come to see the Big Bang as the creation event. Naturalists begin to see a problem with a single event and the question of a causative factor. Then a theory of a universe forever starting and stopping. Probability theory gets used to explain that life maybe isn't as unique as we once thought. So off we go looking for the basics needed for life and signs of life with all the planets found recently and Mars so close by.

Well that's how I have it. Feel free to correct or add to it.
 
I'm confused about what finding water on mars is all about. I doubt human life originated from mars. And given the atmosphere I doubt it holds out any future existence for human life. So?

It means that there might be life on Mars and if we get round to exploring the solar system we can use mars as a truck stop and use the ice for drinking, converting into oxygen and fuel.
 
Water ice confirmed:
June 20, 2008 Scientists relishing confirmation of water ice near the surface beside NASA's Phoenix Mars Lander anticipate even bigger discoveries from the robotic mission in the weeks ahead.

"It is with great pride and a lot of joy that I announce today that we have found proof that this hard bright material is really water ice and not some other substance," said Phoenix Principal Investigator Peter Smith of the University of Arizona, Tucson, during a Friday news briefing to announce the confirmation of water ice.

"The truth we're looking for is not just looking at ice. It is in finding out the minerals, chemicals and hopefully the organic materials associated with these discoveries," said Smith
http://phoenix.lpl.arizona.edu/06_20_pr.php
 
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Have to say I kinda stopped following this after some reports the robot was failing to collect soil. Obviously it worked in the end.
 
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