Marquis of Lorne: what a beaut of a pub!

[cerv2005]

It is quite a grand looking place, right on my doorstep as well but I've gotta say I've hardly ever drunk in there for the last 3 years.

It is a proper old man boozer, which I like but at times I just find it a bit depressing. I think having a few more people in it would help. It's never really that busy. Landlord is an irish fella called Pat I think.

 

[Shippou-Sensei]

ohhh i wonder how they do for cider...

 

[Choc]

i have never noticed this place either!?

will be curious to hear how it is like when you guys go tomorrow. i can't make it in the eve because i am having to cook for dinner guests in brockley.

 

[meurig]

Used to play pool there when I lived in Stockwell, especially after the Albert lost its pool table.

Is the surly Irish landlord still there?

 

[Crispy]

Landlord wasn't in that night.

 

[editor]

(Copied over from the other thread which I'll close)

It's a nice, old fashioned boozer with no frills (apart from an annoying Sky TV box that no one was watching). If I lived nearby, it would be a good place to sit and read the papers or have a pint or two and get some reading work done in the day. Or have a quiet night in the pub with friends.

It was really quiet on the Friday night and that can't spell good news for the future survival of the pub, so it needs all the support it can get. Maybe this little feature might encourage a few Brixton/Stockwell locals to give it a go.

Here's some photos of its interior.

 

[editor]

Landlord wasn't in that night.

Wasn't he the big fella we spoke to at the end?

 

[Crispy]

Wasn't he the big fella we spoke to at the end?

Maybe. Can't remember too well

PS: You can add the fact that the exterior of the pub is Grade II listed (since 1981)

 

[editor]

You can add the fact that the exterior of the pub is Grade II listed (since 1981)

Done!

I hope the pub survives, but it looks a tough call from what I've seen so far, particularly if they're selling beer so cheap. It's a shame that so many people prefer to frequent chain pubs rather than beautiful old boozers like this. How can they hope to compete on price/trimmings with the corporate big boys?

 

[tarannau]

Pool table, arrers and a swirly carpet - it looks simply divine.

Anyone up for pub games olympiad sometime soon? They keep threatening the return of pool at the Hootahob, but it's not materialised and I'm getting withdrawal syptoms. And darts just isn't the same played on the Nintendo wii.

 

[gabi]

Done!

I hope the pub survives, but it looks a tough call from what I've seen so far, particularly if they're selling beer so cheap. It's a shame that so many people prefer to frequent chain pubs rather than beautiful old boozers like this. How can they hope to compete on price/trimmings with the corporate big boys?

Its been surviving just fine for years with pretty the same level of clientele - i dont think its in much danger.

As u say, a nice peaceful place to read the paper or catch a game in relative peace. The old boys are always keen to get some fresh blood to have a game of pool against as well which is a laugh. Some of em really are shockingly bad

Price wise, I've never noticed it being THAT cheap. Not for the shite mass produced lager that I drink anyway.

 

[editor]

Its been surviving just fine for years with pretty the same level of clientele - i dont think its in much danger.

That's what people have said about a lot of pubs that have since vanished (but I hope you're right).

There was only about 8 people there at its peak on Friday night, and most of them were only there for a pint at most. When I went past the pub last week there was just 2 people in there.

With that low level of income, how long do you think it will before some property developer starts wafting a tempting wad about?

 

[London_Calling]

With that low level of income, how long do you think it will before some property developer starts wafting a tempting wad about?

Can't quite see down the other side from your photo but I'd guess the pub occupies a relatively small plot.

If you think about the pubs that have gone they've prob all had greater development potential, either horizontally or vertically (this pub is a three level job in a residential area). If this kind of plot goes, then . . . .

 

[editor]

Can't quite see down the other side from your photo but I'd guess the pub occupies a relatively small plot.

If you think about the pubs that have gone they've prob all had greater development potential, either horizontally or vertically (this pub is a three level job in a residential area). If this kind of plot goes, then . . . .

Not really - it looks bigger than the Two Woodcocks (gone), the Hamilton (gone), The Angel (gone)...

 

[Crispy]

*goes to look up planning applications in the street to see how much development goes on*

Not much. Only 1 application on that road last year, and that for a minor ground-floor extension.

 

[Winot]

I hope the pub survives, but it looks a tough call from what I've seen so far, particularly if they're selling beer so cheap. It's a shame that so many people prefer to frequent chain pubs rather than beautiful old boozers like this. How can they hope to compete on price/trimmings with the corporate big boys?

There's a lot of posters on U75 who bemoan the corporatisation/gentrification of local pubs and cry out for an old style boozer with games/footie/pub grub etc.

Seems to me this is an excellent opportunity to 'adopt' and influence such a pub before it's too late. If the landlord's got any sense (and it's done sensitively) he'll welcome you* with open till.

Drinkers of U75 unite - you have nothing to lose but your chains!

(*not me I hasten to add - as a confirmed namby gentrifier I'll be down the Lord Tarquin tucking into my radicchio surprise)

 

[co-op]

Look at those original tiles! And the authentic glass! This surely has to be one of the best looking and best preserved boozers in SW9/SW2. The inside looked nice too.

Anyone been there? Anyone fancy a trip there?

Wasn't I just saying on some other thread how we have proper boozers in Stockwell?

 

[editor]

Shame there's no real ale on offer though. I'd hate to see the character of the pub change, but just a few little tweaks - a real ale or two, a daytime coffee machine, slightly softer lighting and perhaps a sofa in the lounge side might make it a little more appealing to people under 60 and help it compete against Wether$poon$.

 

[editor]

Wasn't I just saying on some other thread how we have proper boozers in Stockwell?

But you don't go there!

 

[Mr Retro]

Shame there's no real ale on offer though. I'd hate to see the character of the pub change, but just a few little tweaks - a real ale or two, a daytime coffee machine, slightly softer lighting and perhaps a sofa in the lounge side might make it a little more appealing to people under 60 and help it compete against Wether$poon$.

I reckon a real ale would go off in a place like that before it was all drunk up. 2 definitely would.

 

[gabi]

Seems to me this is an excellent opportunity to 'adopt' and influence such a pub before it's too late. If the landlord's got any sense (and it's done sensitively) he'll welcome you* with open till

Um I know u dont mean to sound patronising, but well, u do. The pub's fine AFAIK. Im not sure where this feeling that its somehow on its last legs has come from. The landlord will of course welcome any and all (well nearly all) new drinkers, but im not sure he needs to rely on a website to keep him afloat!

 

[corporate whore]

I reckon a real ale would go off in a place like that before it was all drunk up. 2 definitely would.

Maybe - there's a place near me, in the Camberwell/Peckham/East Dulwich backstreet hinterland, which has three guest ales every week. I popped in there on Saturday night, increasing the patronage by about 20%.

Just depends if it's kept well..

 

[Mr Retro]

Maybe - there's a place near me, in the Camberwell/Peckham/East Dulwich backstreet hinterland, which has three guest ales every week. I popped in there on Saturday night, increasing the patronage by about 20%.

Just depends if it's kept well..

That doesn't mean it's not busy other Saturdays or during the daytime though. I know the Canterbury don't keep real ale because of a lack of demand and that's a busy pub.

 

[christonabike]

Seems to me this is an excellent opportunity to 'adopt' and influence such a pub before it's too late.

Some of us already go to these pubs in Brixton, and have done for years

Editor, you have taken a pic with my mate in it on page 2, top pic. he was also in the Streets video that partly filmed in there

Sofa's and coffee machines, haha, no need, it's great as it is

 

[zenie]

Shame there's no real ale on offer though. I'd hate to see the character of the pub change, but just a few little tweaks - a real ale or two, a daytime coffee machine, slightly softer lighting and perhaps a sofa in the lounge side might make it a little more appealing to people under 60 and help it compete against Wether$poon$.

Genterification!!!

Sorry I couldn't make this, had to go elsewhere.

Did you see any dogs lol

 

[tommers]

That doesn't mean it's not busy other Saturdays or during the daytime though. I know the Canterbury don't keep real ale because of a lack of demand and that's a busy pub.

that's usually what they say when they can't be arsed to keep it properly.

 

[corporate whore]

That doesn't mean it's not busy other Saturdays or during the daytime though.

It's really not - very much off the beaten track, much like the MoL..

 

[tarannau]

Maybe - there's a place near me, in the Camberwell/Peckham/East Dulwich backstreet hinterland, which has three guest ales every week. I popped in there on Saturday night, increasing the patronage by about 20%.

Just depends if it's kept well..

There's a limit to how well you can keep ale if nobody's drinking it. Cask ales tend to decrease in quality quite significantly after a couple of days in most circumstances.

Surprised that a pub like the Canterbury can't keep real ale. Surely they'd have enough turnaround to justify a 9 (72 odd pints) going in regularly?

 

[Orang Utan]

Shame there's no real ale on offer though. I'd hate to see the character of the pub change, but just a few little tweaks - a real ale or two, a daytime coffee machine, slightly softer lighting and perhaps a sofa in the lounge side might make it a little more appealing to people under 60 and help it compete against Wether$poon$.

Are you taking the piss?
One visit and you want it to change?

 

[christonabike]

The phrase "you couldn't make it up" springs to mind