Market stabbing arrest

[editor]

2) This means he was most likely an economic refugee or given asylum, someone who was seeking a better life here.

His application for asylum in the UK had just failed, so I figure that's why he was going back to Afghanistan to get married.

 

[Gramsci]

If this man, was ready to kill someone over "respect" issues and a 20p orange, I can bet my life that he was not a gainfully employed person and had no interest in working. He probably did not have a family he cared enough about to try and stay out of trouble. I don't know what sort of person would have little children or older parents at home and think it is alright to stab someone else's son or father in the heart.



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A lot of assumptions here.We still dont know all the details.Compare this with the other thread on the beating with metal bars by staff of the Fridge of an unarmed individual.The man was lucky he was not killed or seriously injured.All those who took part in that attack(and convicted) were in "gainful employment".

The emphasis at the vigil was on Brixton being a multicultural area.Which makes me think that there is friction between different communities that flare up sometimes.

However your point is taken.If this had been a drug gang related stabbing Im sure the Police would have investigated it (under Operation Trident) but I cant say Id would have been arsed to go to a vigil about it.

The fact of the matter is that whatever disagreement u have with someone u dont get a knife and stab them on purpose.I think some of the concern over this killing is that,some of us live in central Brixton, and however streetwise ur this can happen to you or someone you know.

 

[detective-boy]

If this had been a drug gang related stabbing Im sure the Police would have investigated it (under Operation Trident)...

You appear to be suggesting that there is a possibility that the police may not have investigated a murder if it had been a drug gang related stabbing. If that is the case, please provide some evidential basis for the claim. ALL murders or possible murders are thoroughly investigated to the same extent. Not least because until you fully investigate them you haven't got the faintest idea why they were committed (if, in fact, you are any the wiser afterwards sometimes).

 

[Mind]

[ A lot of assumptions here.We still dont know all the details.Compare this with the other thread on the beating with metal bars by staff of the Fridge of an unarmed individual.The man was lucky he was not killed or seriously injured.All those who took part in that attack(and convicted) were in "gainful employment".

Not really.
The nature of a bouncer's job is thuggish and violent. It doesn't take much for a shove out of the door to turn into a mass brawl with someone getting his head kicked in and dying.
However, I doubt these bouncers went into work conspiring to kill someone. I am not in any way justifying what they did, but there is no suggestion of planning and pre-meditation.
There's a big difference between that and this situation where those who killed someone had tried to steal fruit a few days earlier, and came back planning to stab someone.

The point I'm making is that while both are terrible things to happen, the pre-planned stabbing of someone over a 20p piece of fruit, is not something you'd expect from someone who had a job to go to and better things to do, even if he was a bouncer.

 

[Johnny Canuck3]

It's not really a thread for jokes, Johnny.

It was only half in jest.

 

[Johnny Canuck3]

.....especially given that two down, is a thread called 'London is it safe after dark?'

 

[sir.clip]

A black, invariably british man. Someone who should know what it's like living in a country where you don't completely belong. ???????

Wha!!!

Thats saddening..

 

[wiskey]

He got life, minimum 20yrs.

 

[Stoat Boy]

Firstly its good to know that this man will be locked away for a long long time.

But I do wonder if perhaps the Police policy of not being interested in dealing with minor crime perhaps played a part in this.

My only experience is from the Kennington area but I know of two small shops, both Asian run, that have had problems with predominantly Black British men ( and it is proper adults rather than kids or juveniles ) walking in and taking a small item such as a chocolate bar or similar and just walking off. They make no effort to hide what they are doing or show any concern and it has been made clear to both shop keepers by local Police that they will not do anything to either prevent this happening or even make an effort to aprehend.

In fact one local community PC told me, when I challanged him over this, that even if he was in the shop at the time he would be very unlikely to get involved in arresting somebody committing such an offence because it would be consider a waste of time and resources to deal with such a trivial matter.

Which makes me wonder if such a culture is allowed to get established that somehow this man, when challanged over such behaviour, felt genuinely aggrieved over it ?

Now I accept that I would be considered a right wing lunatic by many on here when it comes to crime but I do think that we have, especially in this part of South London, allowed low level crime to go unchallanged to such an extent that some people believe they almost have a right to act in such a manner and react violently when challanged.

 

[Boris Sprinkler]

Firstly its good to know that this man will be locked away for a long long time.

But I do wonder if perhaps the Police policy of not being interested in dealing with minor crime perhaps played a part in this.

My only experience is from the Kennington area but I know of two small shops, both Asian run, that have had problems with predominantly Black British men ( and it is proper adults rather than kids or juveniles ) walking in and taking a small item such as a chocolate bar or similar and just walking off. They make no effort to hide what they are doing or show any concern and it has been made clear to both shop keepers by local Police that they will not do anything to either prevent this happening or even make an effort to aprehend.

In fact one local community PC told me, when I challanged him over this, that even if he was in the shop at the time he would be very unlikely to get involved in arresting somebody committing such an offence because it would be consider a waste of time and resources to deal with such a trivial matter.

Which makes me wonder if such a culture is allowed to get established that somehow this man, when challanged over such behaviour, felt genuinely aggrieved over it ?

Now I accept that I would be considered a right wing lunatic by many on here when it comes to crime but I do think that we have, especially in this part of South London, allowed low level crime to go unchallanged to such an extent that some people believe they almost have a right to act in such a manner and react violently when challanged.

Not that it matters but the killer wasn't British.