Mark Thomas endorses Green Party

[taffboy gwyrdd]

As exhibited here:

 

[shagnasty]

I agree on what he says about disgruntled labour voters it is hard for them to find anyone who represents them

 

[skyscraper101]

I wonder why he didn't mention the Lib Dems. I would have liked to know his opinion on them.

 

[Kid_Eternity]

I thought he did, didn't he slate the three main parties?

 

[lostexpectation]

what about the swp?

don't all green parties become free market neoliberalist once they get near power?

 

[_float_]

No.

 

[MarkyB]

what about the swp?

don't all green parties become free market neoliberalist once they get near power?

How about the Italian Greens?

They were in power in Italy (or at least part of the governing coalition) and shifted dramatically to the left, forming an electoral pact with Communist refoundation at the last election...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federation_of_the_Greens

The Catalan Greens have also remained on the left, and are also part of the regional government...

 

[treelover]

The GP have just endorsed a very badly thought out policy which basically sanctions 'open borders', how can this be consistent with what they also advocate: a localised sustainable economy?

 

[lostexpectation]

How about the Italian Greens?

They were in power in Italy (or at least part of the governing coalition) and shifted dramatically to the left, forming an electoral pact with Communist refoundation at the last election...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federation_of_the_Greens

The Catalan Greens have also remained on the left, and are also part of the regional government...

ok but the uk greens will.

 

[MarkyB]

what about the swp?

don't all green parties become free market neoliberalist once they get near power?

ok but the uk greens will.

So you agree that not all green parties become free market neoliberalist once they get near power?

in the same way that just because one SWP member when elected as a councilor defects to the Tories doesn't mean they all will...

 

[butchersapron]

That shows the exact opposite. A move to the left after losing the sniff of power they had whilst on the right, supporting the neo-liberal policies of Prodi's Olive Tree coalition.

 

[lewislewis]

I wonder how he would feel in Wales or Scotland. In Scotland he would still be likely to back the Greens as the SNP are not that good on environmental issues (apart from renewable energy), but in Wales the Greens don't really exist that much.

 

[brasicritique]

Mark Thomas endorses Green Party So what the blokes a prick

 

[upsidedownwalrus]

Mark Thomas endorses Green Party So what the blokes a prick

Who pissed on your chips today?

 

[Kid_Eternity]

Mark Thomas endorses Green Party So what the blokes a prick

He is? Know him personally do you?

 

[lostexpectation]

So you agree that not all green parties become free market neoliberalist once they get near power?

in the same way that just because one SWP member when elected as a councilor defects to the Tories doesn't mean they all will...

isn't it the only possibility in england to enable coalition at national or regional level and because of the current system, you gotta move to the right. or when in power it moves you.

i think thats what happened in ireland theres alot of people who were turned off by the stench of fianna fail maybe see dollars in green industry and join the greens, to save the hippies from themselves, a lot of young greens in ireland are now pretty much PD greens imho. tory greens sorta.

 

[brasicritique]

He is? Know him personally do you?

People on housing estates everywhere know him, and his witty mixture of comedy, politics and ethical self promotion.

 

[jannerboyuk]

I wonder how he would feel in Wales or Scotland. In Scotland he would still be likely to back the Greens as the SNP are not that good on environmental issues (apart from renewable energy), but in Wales the Greens don't really exist that much.

unfortunately true. so many things they could be at the forefront of in cardiff as well. a well organised progressive party would go great guns in cardiff but there is nobody there!

 

[isitme]

How about the Italian Greens?

They were in power in Italy (or at least part of the governing coalition) and shifted dramatically to the left, forming an electoral pact with Communist refoundation at the last election...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federation_of_the_Greens

The Catalan Greens have also remained on the left, and are also part of the regional government...

the italian system is very different to the english one. there is never one ruling party.

 

[isitme]

i don't like mark thomas. he has done some good campaigns but there's just something about him

 

[AnnO'Neemus]

I read his book: As used on the famous Nelson Mandela

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Used-Famous-Nelson-Mandela-Underground/dp/009190921X

But ooh, actually, it's a bargain on his website (and I can't recommend this book highly enough):

http://www.markthomasinfo.com/section_store/

It actually seems extremely well researched, and it's a bloody good read, I highly recommend it, you think he's a comedian, but the quality is of a high calibre investigative reporter, and seriously, few broadcasters or broadsheets have the time and resources to devote to this kind of indepth investigation, so make the most of it while you can.

His general website is here:

http://www.markthomasinfo.com/

He's touring at the moment, dates here:

http://www.markthomasinfo.com/section_gigs/

I'm hoping to see him in Manchester in June.

 

[brasicritique]

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