Mark Serwotka comdemns other general secretaries

[cockneyrebel]

Clarify, the average wage of a skilled worker is MORE than double what I earn.

The average median wage for all workers across the UK is about 22-23k a year as far as I remember.

In terms of Mark Serwotka by flat mate is a PCS rep and the last thing he said to me is that although Mark Serwotka gives back a fair chunk of his wage he still takes more than the figure you have given for the average skilled worker, but I don't know exactly how much.

 

[Macullam]

[In terms of Mark Serwotka by flat mate is a PCS rep and the last thing he said to me is that although Mark Serwotka gives back a fair chunk of his wage he still takes more than the figure you have given for the average skilled worker, but I don't know exactly how much.[/QUOTE]

I think you would have to take into account what he was earning in his previous job. I would not expect someone from the shop floor to take a pay cut.

I remember a SWP full timer arguing in justification of not imposing the principle of a workers representative on a workers wage, that Mark Serwotka was taking the full general secretary pay.

 

[cockneyrebel]

I think you would have to take into account what he was earning in his previous job. I would not expect someone from the shop floor to take a pay cut.

Well the SSP did that:

For members like Rosemary Byrne and Carolyn Leckie it has meant a
reduction in wages from their previous professions as a teacher and
midwife respectively.

 

[urbanrevolt]

I think for an MP it should be the average workers' wage and only necessary and fully accountable expenses. Trade unions should have an elected steering committee with those elected working on the average wage of the union members I think.

 

[Groucho]

[In terms of Mark Serwotka by flat mate is a PCS rep and the last thing he said to me is that although Mark Serwotka gives back a fair chunk of his wage he still takes more than the figure you have given for the average skilled worker, but I don't know exactly how much.

I think you would have to take into account what he was earning in his previous job. I would not expect someone from the shop floor to take a pay cut.

I remember a SWP full timer arguing in justification of not imposing the principle of a workers representative on a workers wage, that Mark Serwotka was taking the full general secretary pay.

I doubt it because Serwotka is not taking the full gen sec pay. He always supported the workers wage principle. Upon getting elected the right-wing blocked his getting any relocation expenses. His wife had to quit her job. He had been paid as an Executive Officer, but not on London rates, since he lived in Sheffield. He pays back part of his wage, but was not prepared to effectively impoverish his family. I have no problem at all with his position.

I agree with the workers representative on a workers wage principle. This is not necessarily a preconditiopn for supporting people in elections, but any SWP member standing in an election would take that position.

 

[Groucho]

The average median wage for all workers across the UK is about 22-23k a year as far as I remember.

It is currently about 25k nationally AFAIK, but it is higher in London.

 

[poster342002]

I think for an MP it should be the average workers' wage

I think it should be the minimum wage. If they think it's at an acceptable level, they should have to live on it themselves.

 

[poster342002]

It is currently about 25k nationally AFAIK, but it is higher in London.

For a lot of people in London (myself included) it's considerably less than £19K.

 

[glenquagmire]

Your wage might be but the average median wage isn't. Which was the original point.

 

[poster342002]

Your wage might be but the average median wage isn't. Which was the original point.

And whenever I hear that I see a subtextual excuse for ignoring those of us at the bottom - there just aren't enough of us to matter to the left, so those on higher incomes and who're better off get all the attention.

 

[glenquagmire]

Do you know what an average median wage means? It factors in how many there are at the bottom, and at the top, and everyone in between. That's what distinguishes it from a mean.

I took you off Ignore yesterday and am regretting it already. Jesus.

 

[poster342002]

Do you know what an average median wage means? It factors in how many there are at the bottom, and at the top, and everyone in between. That's what distinguishes it from a mean.

To those of us at the bottom it means fuck all. We don't have the luxury of crapping on about the wider picture.

 

[glenquagmire]

Well why bother posting on a thread about the wider picture then?

Other than to make your usual self-righteous prolier-than-thou whinge.