Discussion in 'music, bands, clubs & festies' started by trashpony, Jan 24, 2018.
Great article, thank you for the link.
I dont know why but that track has made me imagine him calling bingo in hell.
Statement from his sisters here.
Lung and kidney cancer, poor bloke. Jesus.
This was the last time I saw them. Ah fuck I'm missing the old bastard.
MES No sellout.
Suspected something like.
Was playing various Fall songs earlier and my lad said "What's THAT?" so I told him and he was astonished there was an English singer who sang in his own accent
Let's hope for a Bingomaster's Breakout
Been listening to Code:Selfish era today. Bloody wonderful.
"This is the spring without end.
This is the summer of malcontent.
This is the winter of your mind."
I am still learning about the prolific output of the Fall and was not even aware of that when I made my bingo comment - will check it out, cheers.
To be fair, pick any two random words and it's statistically more likely to be a Fall song than not.
Best top ever btw
Been doing two Fall albums a week since he died. Lots of amazing catching up. “Shift-Work” is the only one i’ve not got on with so far. (And i’ve got mates who swear by it so will check it out some more).
Different fall. It's superb.
Great line about the evil of the phone on easter sunday in garden.
I'm sure there was a C&A line of jumpers like that. Great dishevelled Perry Boy look in the video - fringe & Peter Werth-style stripe.
Never could tell if it was accidental or helped - given he appeared in pixie boots and full length barbour style mac at same time. All came together in that one though.
Pixie boots & tucker boots - I'd forgotten about them. I reckon accidental as a thing, just normative locally. That proto-casual look, now categorised & fetishised, was the default at the time & place - if you went to the barbers, that was the cut you got, & the rest was basically school uniform, wasn't it - farah slacks, black adidas or grey slip ons (with the backs trod down) & a jumper. I asked one of the old barbers round here about The Perry - he reckoned it was originally 'The Perry Como', & as it grew out, the fringe became a flick, later exaggerated & layered.
I really got into the half-dozen or so albums that I listened to after his death, listened to them way too much every since. Mostly earlier stuff, and not enough to feel like I know what I am talking about.
But I did think of this song when a certain long-term poster got banned recently.
MES mural on the side of a chippy in Prestwich
The Mark E Smith mural has been finished - and fans are loving it
It's a good chippy too!
Dead Mark Smith being used to promote a twee arts festival he ignored when alive. A fictitious city described & defined by grave robbing estate agents. So we have Dead Tony Wilson on developers' hoardings, Dead Ian Curtis on Spinningfield office walls, & now Dead Mark Smith lyrics in a juice bar window. Unseemly.
^ fuckinell, the spirit of old misery guts lives and breathes
That soil stack could do with looking at
- guttering the quantifier
I'm with you on the property developer bit but more locally it's a bit harsh. The lyrics are done by the lass at Village Greens who previously did the post-bombing Bees. I'm sure MES would have had something to say about the mural, probably nothing good, but then what did he like and how would anyone tell?
What would be fitting?
Bacon hanging out of a window in order to keep it refrigerated.
I have seen the birth of bad
I have seen declining tracks
I have seen the madness in my area
Has anyone asked his sisters, pals, bandmates what would be fitting? I'm betting not. The words & pictures fly-posted round the precinct when he died felt bang on - motivated by warmth. This is different - it's not warm or spontaneous, it's transactional.
Maybe a mural's fine - but why here & now? The Fall always supported Salford's Sounds from the Other City - why not put something on Kersal Social Club instead? And as for the painted lyrics in the windows of flippin juice & craft ale bars he never used, it's just rank opportunism. Why not display them in the pubs he did use? Answer - because the people pushing this event don't go in The Foresters or The Red Lion, & don't care about engaging with those who do. It's not about him - it's about them. And their estate agent sponsored jamboree.
(I know I'm coming across as a bit of nause but it does get me down, not just the crass commodification but the lack of imagination. Mcr's flooded with this shit - you know as well as I do, you can't walk two minutes without seeing a bee, a hacienda hazard stripe, or a dead musician's cartoon face.)
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